[GDT] Vegas Golden Knights Expansion Draft

[Stanley]

Originally Posted by cannon7

McPhee better be demanding a king's ransom to not take good players. Getting annoyed by these rumors.

No kidding...screw "future relationships" if I'm him. Take the good players.

[sureLoss]

Mike Russo is reporting a slight change to the Wild deal:

Vegas signs Haula. Vegas gets Tuch. Wild get conditional pick.

[sureLoss]

Rumor Vegas selects Eakin from the Stars:

Jim Toth
@JimTothSports
Source tells me #Winnipeg's & now former #Stars forward Cody Eakin is a Las Vegas #GoldenKnights


I think players are being told now. Should be more leaks soon.

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Chaisson depends on whether they want to use one of their 10 available RFA/UFA picks on him.

I'm not terribly upset if Brouwer stays. If he is healthy, with an axe to grind, he could easily become a player worth something like his salary. Brouwer playing well is probably better than Chiasson playing well.

If they go Kulak, that doesn't fuss me at all. I'd like to keep Shinkaruk though. I think he can make it.

Even if Brouwer turned it around this year, and that's a huge if. He has two more years left at a relatively massive cap hit. Turning it around probably equates to 35 points with abysmal possession numbers as well....not nearly enough. The guy is a boat anchor and anyway this team can rid themselves of the deal needs to be explored.

[Stanley]

Why wouldn't they just take Engelland? Is he UFA?

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Stanley

Why wouldn't they just take Engelland? Is he UFA?

Yes, so they could just sign him and not waste a pick.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Hot_Flatus

Even if Brouwer turned it around this year, and that's a huge if. He has two more years left at a relatively massive cap hit. Turning it around probably equates to 35 points with abysmal possession numbers as well....not nearly enough. The guy is a boat anchor and anyway this team can rid themselves of the deal needs to be explored.

Brouwer's 2016–17 season was the worst of his entire NHL career. I don't think it is at all a "huge if" to see him do better next year. Rather to the contrary, I don't see how he cannot but improve.

In any event, 35 points in a season from a second/third line winger is solid production, and is actually quite close in range for his salary as a UFA acquisition.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Locke

Yes, so they could just sign him and not waste a pick.

In the light of the RFA requirement they might opt to use an entry draft selection to sign Engelland now.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

In the light of the RFA requirement they might opt to use an entry draft selection to sign Engelland now.

While true, they also get a head start on UFA negotiations do they not?

[DeluxeMoustache]

Mentioned this in another thread.

I saw McKenzie's article on the TSN app. So basically according to him, Vegas has deals in place to take cap dumps aplenty.

MAF takes up 5.75
Stoner at 3.25 played 14 games last year. Rumour they take him to get Theodore.
To get Marchessailt, they take on 5 M from Reilly Smith
They take 3.08 M of Kruger to get TvR
They take 5 M of Grabovski to "help hit the cap floor"

So if Calgary folks want him to take Brouwer, we are not talking about a guy short on options to meet the cap floor.

I just don't see Vegas taking everybody's cap dumps.

[SuperMatt18]

Wonder if we could somehow convince them to swap R.Smith for Brouwer.

That Smith contract is 2 years longer but the underlying stats show that his season was more shooting percentage driven and that he is still a pretty good player.

[AC]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

25. St. Louis

@gabhockey46
Per @raphdoucet, #VGK is going to select F David Perron from #Blues tonight.
https://twitter.com/gabhockey46/stat...69155280646145

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Locke

While true, they also get a head start on UFA negotiations do they not?

Yes. The more news trickles out today the more I think it is likely that Engelland ends up as the Flames expansion selection. With the number of cap dumps they are acquiring the Knights are going to need more value contracts than I at first imagined, and I think Engelland on a two-year deal playing in his home town could provide that for them.

[Locke]

Perron is a pretty decent pick, I really want to know who they take from us.

[sureLoss]

because of the Hossa news, the Kreuger/TVR deal may no longer be on the table

https://theathletic.com/69162/2017/0...ackhawks-hazy/

For many weeks now, it’s been assumed the Blackhawks would lose Marcus Kruger and Trevor van Riemsdyk to the Vegas Golden Knights.

Today, that assumption isn’t as strong.

With the news Wednesday that Marian Hossa would be missing the 2017-18 season due to a skin disorder, the Blackhawks are headed in an unexpected new direction. Whether that direction still includes Kruger and/or van Riemsdyk is unclear.

According to a source, Kruger is not expected to be drafted or traded to the Golden Knights on Wednesday. Outside of that, Kruger’s future with the Blackhawks is unknown, the source said.

[Tinordi]

Even if Vegas wanted Brouwer, they'd still be likely to demand extra assets from the Flames. They know they'd be doing us a favour and would want to be compensated for it. Leave no doubt, taking on $14 million of salary liability and cap space is a big commitment from Vegas, regardless of whether they really want the player. This has value and they would push for the Flames to sweeten.

So I'm arguing that if Brouwer goes it wont be just Brouwer, there will likely be a pick/prospect going the other way too. This depends on the assumption that the Flames have indeed moved on and want him gone.

[Tinordi]

And it must really sting in Anaheim to have to give up assets so you *only* get to lose Shea Theodore for nothing.

It also speaks to why Anaheim swept us. We're using our last slot to protect Curtis Freaking Lazar. The difference in organizational depth between Anaheim and the Flames is significant.

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Brouwer's 2016–17 season was the worst of his entire NHL career. I don't think it is at all a "huge if" to see him do better next year. Rather to the contrary, I don't see how he cannot but improve.

In any event, 35 points in a season from a second/third line winger is solid production, and is actually quite close in range for his salary as a UFA acquisition.

He wasn't signed to his bloated FA deal to toil on the third line. Adjusting his value to make it seem as much is nothing more than cherry picking.

Compare what Brouwer brings to Frolik at a similar salary and its almost laughable the level of production he's bringing to the club. 35 points might be solid production for a lottery team but certainly not on a team that should be moving into the upper echelon of teams in the western conference.

[Fighting Banana Slug]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

Even if Vegas wanted Brouwer, they'd still be likely to demand extra assets from the Flames. They know they'd be doing us a favour and would want to be compensated for it. Leave no doubt, taking on $14 million of salary liability and cap space is a big commitment from Vegas, regardless of whether they really want the player. This has value and they would push for the Flames to sweeten.

So I'm arguing that if Brouwer goes it wont be just Brouwer, there will likely be a pick/prospect going the other way too. This depends on the assumption that the Flames have indeed moved on and want him gone.

They can ask, but the Flames can legitimately state, "fine, take someone else", because we really can't lose much in value. Vegas could still take Brouwer, if they like that player.

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Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger
Rumblings the Toronto Maple Leafs will lose Brendan Leipsic in the expansion draft.

Awards show is going to be a joke... all the selections are leaking.