[News] New Arena - Plan B - Victoria Park

[CedarMeter]

King is on the Fan right now, or maybe it's a replay.

[Joborule]

Originally Posted by Scary Eloranta

Also - not sure where they could put in luxury boxes - especially the mid-level ones like they have at New Mosaic. Those are pretty much cash machines for the Riders.

If I were to guess, it would replace the second level/nosebleeds.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by CedarMeter

King is on the Fan right now, or maybe it's a replay.

Well...hes eating some crow which is admirable.

Stupid comments and bad timing.

But again: "When they see it I think they're going to love it."

[Scary Eloranta]

Originally Posted by Locke

Well...hes eating some crow which is admirable.

Stupid comments and bad timing.

But again: "When they see it I think they're going to love it."

Yeah I was wondering what that meant too!

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Locke

Well...hes eating some crow which is admirable.

Stupid comments and bad timing.

But again: "When they see it I think they're going to love it."

A fantastic new plan for the West Village called CalgaryNexxt.

The extra X is for Xtra Special.

[CorbeauNoir]

Originally Posted by nik-

A fantastic new plan for the West Village called CalgaryNexxt.

The extra X is for Xtra Special.

Calgary's new planned red light district, CalgaryNeXXXt

[polak]

Originally Posted by CorbeauNoir

Calgary's new planned red light district, CalgaryNeXXXt

Will there be back door access for VIPs?

[Bunk]

It was a good interview. I think he certainly softened the ground toward the Victoria Park option.

[Bill Bumface]

Regarding McMahon, just give me BMO field from Toronto. Not super flashy, good sight lines and a covered stand in an outdoor stadium. Even better would be heated and drained grass with grow lights...

[Reaper]

Originally Posted by polak

Will there be back door access for VIPs?

Yes, and no, you can't pay extra not to wear a rubber.

[Frequitude]

Good interview. 3 key takeaways for me.

1) Ate crow for giving a dumb answer
2) Softened on a Victoria Park concept and said something to the effect of it could end up being great
3) Kept the relocation threat on the table by calling his answer "untimely" (or "ill timed" I forget the exact words but it stood out) instead of "wrong"

[GC91]

Missed the interview...Did they give any timeline for when we would see official plans for victoria park or any changes to west village?

[Senator Clay Davis]

It's pretty simple at this point. The Flames will accept CalgaryNEXT is in fact dead and will move on, and we'll have Plan A in Vic Park all wrapped up in about 3-5 months. Or the Flames are all in and it's either they get CalgaryNEXT or are becoming the Kansas City Flames, and this will drag out for another year or three. I hope they see the writing on the wall and take the easy path here.

[CedarMeter]

Originally Posted by GC91

Missed the interview...Did they give any timeline for when we would see official plans for victoria park or any changes to west village?

No, I don't think that was mentioned. Here's the link to the interview.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/960/the-big-...ject-big-show/

[Fighting Banana Slug]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

It's pretty simple at this point. The Flames will accept CalgaryNEXT is in fact dead and will move on, and we'll have Plan A in Vic Park all wrapped up in about 3-5 months. Or the Flames are all in and it's either they get CalgaryNEXT or are becoming the Kansas City Flames, and this will drag out for another year or three. I hope they see the writing on the wall and take the easy path here.

I think there is plenty of ground between those two options. 3-5 months for Vic Park seems hopelessly optimistic and King standing firm on CalgaryNext seems just hopeless. I doubt either is likely.

From what I caught from the interview, is that Vic Park may be a decent option, but it does not address the Stamps and McMahon. King is worried, and rightfully so in my opinion, that McMahon could be "orphaned" in the process.

[Senator Clay Davis]

The Stamps problem is football is a TV sport and it's only becoming even more of a TV sport and less of a spectator sport. It's extremely difficult to justify any significant money for a new stadium, unless that stadium is not bound by NIMBY-ism. But since being on or near transit line is essential to ensuring anyone goes to any new stadium, that basically ensures NIMBY-ism will be a problem and hosting any other types of events will be a non-starter unless it's a stadium on the edge of Seton or Rocky Ridge. If I was King and Co. I would fully support Vic Park and then just hope the city gets the Olympics and maybe you get a stand alone stadium for free, ideally something that's not terrible and no good like CalgaryNEXT.

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by CedarMeter

King is on the Fan right now, or maybe it's a replay.

King should do less Sports Media and more News Media.

[polak]

Originally Posted by Parallex

King should do less Sports Media and more News Media.

Hah if he goes on station that is not affiliated with the Flames, he might actually have to answer the real questions.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Fighting Banana Slug

I think there is plenty of ground between those two options. 3-5 months for Vic Park seems hopelessly optimistic and King standing firm on CalgaryNext seems just hopeless. I doubt either is likely.

From what I caught from the interview, is that Vic Park may be a decent option, but it does not address the Stamps and McMahon. King is worried, and rightfully so in my opinion, that McMahon could be "orphaned" in the process.

I hate that he is tying the Flames arena needs with the Stamps. 2 completely different leagues and priorities. The Stamps play 9-10 home games a year in a second rate league. I used to be a Stamps season ticket holder because it was cheap and I got to drink in the sun on a summer afternoon and watch some sports. Personally I have no issue with McMahon and think some renovations would be nice. I hate the field house idea to house the Stamps considering they are the playing in a Dome stadium.

The city wants to spruce up McMahon and build a field house that solves those problems and most importantly the Victoria Park arena project solves the most needed facility in the city which is a new events centre.


I like Calgarynext as it really transforms the downtown of the city and adds needed infrastructure to an area of the city that is currently under utilized due to the contamination. Having said that I don't think it is feasible in the timeframe needed. I believe calgarynext is 10+ years away but Victoria Park is 5ish years away

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by polak

Hah if he goes on station that is not affiliated with the Flames, he might actually have to answer the real questions.

Precisely why he should do it. Yeah, it'll be uncomfortable for him but if your plan can't stand up to anything except puffballs lobbed at you in slow-motion then your plan is a ####ty plan and should be reworked.

I mean Kings selling tactics (which I think is backwards) is obviously to try to convince the public and use public support to leverage a "yes" out of City Council. If he could get enough folk out of friendly media it'd be done already, so either he needs to change tact or broaden his message.