03-10-2024, 02:36 PM
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#201
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Fort McMurray, AB
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Originally Posted by Groot
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Wow, there's definitely more than I thought!
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03-10-2024, 04:10 PM
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#202
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Toronto
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Has this been mentioned? So glad Conroy didn't go for this deal. 8M cap hit for Johansen and has 1 more year! Guy has 23 points! Very sneaky try by Sakic. Would've set them up nicely for their run this year and freed themselves up from that 8M cap hit next season.
https://twitter.com/user/status/1766874685076332601
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03-10-2024, 04:15 PM
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#203
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by activeStick
Has this been mentioned? So glad Conroy didn't go for this deal. 8M cap hit for Johansen and has 1 more year! Guy has 23 points! Very sneaky try by Sakic. Would've set them up nicely for their run this year and freed themselves up from that 8M cap hit next season.
https://twitter.com/user/status/1766874685076332601 |
Philly took that deal.
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03-10-2024, 04:22 PM
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#204
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
Treliving tried to build a winner last year but...
1. The coach apparently went off the deep end and created a toxic atmosphere
2. The goalie went from Vezina quality thw year before to literally the worst starting goalie in the league
3. Huberdeau went from 115 point player to 50 point player
Treliving didn't try to sewer the Flames it just happened
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And then they got a new coach and the goalie came back in vezina quality form. And they traded Toffoli for an even better scorer.
And they still missed the playoffs.
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03-10-2024, 04:23 PM
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#205
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by GullFoss
And then they got a new coach and the goalie came back in vezina quality form. And they traded Toffoli for an even better scorer.
And they still missed the playoffs.
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Ok and?
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03-10-2024, 04:25 PM
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#206
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Flames Town
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Originally Posted by activeStick
Has this been mentioned? So glad Conroy didn't go for this deal. 8M cap hit for Johansen and has 1 more year! Guy has 23 points! Very sneaky try by Sakic. Would've set them up nicely for their run this year and freed themselves up from that 8M cap hit next season.
https://twitter.com/user/status/1766874685076332601 |
Hmm, I may have taken the deal. Next year, hope Johansen bounces back and the Flames could have had their own Monahan situation.
Veteran centres seem to get a lot at the deadline.
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03-10-2024, 04:26 PM
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#207
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Franchise Player
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Johansson with no retention, 2 1st’s and another pick is what I would have wanted for Tanev.
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03-10-2024, 04:26 PM
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#208
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by keenan87
Hmm, I may have taken the deal. Next year, hope Johansen bounces back and the Flames could have had their own Monahan situation.
Veteran centres seem to get a lot at the deadline.
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RyJo has nuclear heat on him from Colorado.
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03-10-2024, 04:27 PM
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#209
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
Ok and?
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So why did they miss the playoffs this year?
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03-10-2024, 04:31 PM
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#210
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by keenan87
Hmm, I may have taken the deal. Next year, hope Johansen bounces back and the Flames could have had their own Monahan situation.
Veteran centres seem to get a lot at the deadline.
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Johansen was basically blackballed out of the room by the Avs’ players. He’s not what Calgary is trying to do.
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03-10-2024, 04:32 PM
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#211
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by GullFoss
So why did they miss the playoffs this year?
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Because the team isn't good enough?
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03-10-2024, 04:37 PM
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#212
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: I'm somewhere where I don't know where I am
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
Johansen was basically blackballed out of the room by the Avs’ players. He’s not what Calgary is trying to do.
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We need to be so careful right now
Two things we need to avoid is teaching our young players how to lose and introducing morons into the room
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03-10-2024, 04:37 PM
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#213
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by activeStick
Has this been mentioned? So glad Conroy didn't go for this deal. 8M cap hit for Johansen and has 1 more year! Guy has 23 points! Very sneaky try by Sakic. Would've set them up nicely for their run this year and freed themselves up from that 8M cap hit next season.
https://twitter.com/user/status/1766874685076332601 |
Basically Tanev for free and a 1st for taking on that cap hit.
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03-10-2024, 04:38 PM
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#214
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by keenan87
Hmm, I may have taken the deal. Next year, hope Johansen bounces back and the Flames could have had their own Monahan situation.
Veteran centres seem to get a lot at the deadline.
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Philly instantly put him on waivers and sent him to ahl. Think it’s more than his play on ice that’s the issue.
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03-10-2024, 04:41 PM
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#215
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
Because the team isn't good enough?
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If Huby has 25 more points this season and isn't a turnover machine, are they good enough to compete this season?
If a toxic coach had a 80 point Huby that wasn't a turnover machine, are they good enough last season?
It's not Tre. it's not Sutter. It's not Markstrom. It's not a mix of problems. There is one player that has so substantially underperformed expectations that it's pushed the team into a rebuild. From division champs to full rebuild in 120 games.
Absolutely wild imo
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03-10-2024, 04:44 PM
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#216
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by GullFoss
If Huby has 25 more points this season and isn't a turnover machine, are they good enough to compete this season?
If a toxic coach had a 80 point Huby that wasn't a turnover machine, are they good enough last season?
It's not Tre. it's not Sutter. It's not Markstrom. It's not a mix of problems. There is one player that has so substantially underperformed expectations that it's pushed the team into a rebuild. From division champs to full rebuild in 120 games.
Absolutely wild imo
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Yeah it's not really talked about but Huberdeau is almost single handedly the reason why this team is heading into a rebuild.
If he was what he's paid to be, or even remotely close, there's a good chance we're a playoff team the last two years.
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03-10-2024, 05:00 PM
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#217
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by GullFoss
If Huby has 25 more points this season and isn't a turnover machine, are they good enough to compete this season?
If a toxic coach had a 80 point Huby that wasn't a turnover machine, are they good enough last season?
It's not Tre. it's not Sutter. It's not Markstrom. It's not a mix of problems. There is one player that has so substantially underperformed expectations that it's pushed the team into a rebuild. From division champs to full rebuild in 120 games.
Absolutely wild imo
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Yeah Huby as been a disaster of epic proportions.
My original.comment was due to someone claiming Tre had sewered the team on purpose which is not the case IMO
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03-10-2024, 05:01 PM
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#218
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by traptor
Yeah it's not really talked about but Huberdeau is almost single handedly the reason why this team is heading into a rebuild.
If he was what he's paid to be, or even remotely close, there's a good chance we're a playoff team the last two years.
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Gaudreau and Tkachuk not wanting to be here triggered the rebuild that may have been inevitable either way. Full stop.
Huberdeau was never a fit for this system and was a total panic overpay. He should never have been re-signed sight unseen, but panic completely took over after those two pulled out.
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03-10-2024, 05:15 PM
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#219
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Dallas
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Treliving was the GM. The main guy that built this team.
They are bottom feeder , needing a major rebuild
But it’s not his fault. Nice
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03-10-2024, 06:05 PM
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#220
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Flamesfan05
Treliving was the GM. The main guy that built this team.
They are bottom feeder , needing a major rebuild
But it’s not his fault. Nice
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but but but he works so hard...... so tired of that excuse, him working hard on getting replacement level d man Hamonic cost us Dobson, the same guy who is over 60 points this year. and then he structures the 1st round pick deal with Montreal in such a way so it would appear he is the smartest guy in the room. good riddance.
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