07-17-2017, 06:07 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Rick Bell, is that you?
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07-17-2017, 06:18 PM
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First Line Centre
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Every team needs a boat anchor type of contract or two for competitive balance. Brouwer is on the team for a reason....
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07-17-2017, 06:18 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Indiana
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Now that the expansion draft has passed, I would do a combination between #2 and #6.
But I would also try playing Brouwer on the Backlund line.
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07-17-2017, 06:22 PM
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#5
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: In the studio
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I think Troy will be the first to admit that last season was a let down season and by no means am I expecting a complete 180 switch from last year but I do think he will perform better for us here. What many fans fail to consider when wanting to jettison an unwanted player is that optically as a team and a franchise you have to do it the right way otherwise your sending a message to potential UFA players down the road that maybe Calgary isn't the best option when you at how they turfed Brouwer before the half way point of his contract - hypothetically of course.
I think we are dug into this player for at least the next year if not more so might as well try and use him in a way that will allow him to be his best.
He needs to get back to that checking winger that can chip in now and then and only time will tell if he can but we really have no choice in my opinion but to give him that time for a little while yet here.
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07-17-2017, 06:24 PM
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#6
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In the Sin Bin
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Dumb thread is dumb
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07-17-2017, 06:25 PM
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First Line Centre
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I really honestly and truly hope Brouwer pulls it together and pots 45+ points this season. The guys got lots of good hockey left in him, transition and a new role just hit him hard.
If any of the Brouwer haters are that confident in his failure, bet eating your pubes on it. It went well the last l time someone put a hair sandwich on the line
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07-17-2017, 06:27 PM
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
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+1 to OP for such a well reasoned, logical and not at all over-the-top hilarious thread.
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07-17-2017, 06:28 PM
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#9
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Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkGio
It's no secret Brouwer is no good at hockey. So what should the Flames do with?
1) Pending another lousy season, buy him out?
2) Ride out the contract and scratch him/bury him
3) Spend assets such as picks + prospects to trade him
4) Find evidence of criminal activity and "Lombardi-Richards" his contract
5) Wait for LTIR or early retirement
6) Live in a make-believe world that he's actual good and should play
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Are you serious with this? Do you think this thread is going to lead to some productive discussion? Get out of here with this crap.
And I pick #6, just to piss you off.
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07-17-2017, 06:28 PM
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Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gundo
I really honestly and truly hope Brouwer pulls it together and pots 45+ points this season. The guys got lots of good hockey left in him, transition and a new role just hit him hard.
If any of the Brouwer haters are that confident in his failure, bet eating your pubes on it. It went well the last l time someone put a hair sandwich on the line
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Well his career high is 43, but I'd be very happy if he got 45. I think a nice bit realistic goal is 35 or 40.
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07-17-2017, 06:30 PM
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Franchise Player
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7) Consider that maybe, just maybe, he actually can play when he isn't saddled with a broken hand.
In the early going last season, when the rest of the team was a tire fire, Brouwer was one of the few reasonably effective forwards. After his injury, the wheels fell off. Let's see if we get pre-injury Brouwer or post-injury Brouwer before burning anyone in effigy, shall we?
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07-17-2017, 06:31 PM
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#12
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by savardandjokinen
Well his career high is 43, but I'd be very happy if he got 45. I think a nice bit realistic goal is 35 or 40.
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Crap, actually meant to hit 35. Small phone and big thumbs....
Anyone buying that excuse ? .......Anyone?
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07-17-2017, 06:33 PM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gundo
I really honestly and truly hope Brouwer pulls it together and pots 45+ points this season. The guys got lots of good hockey left in him, transition and a new role just hit him hard.
If any of the Brouwer haters are that confident in his failure, bet eating your pubes on it. It went well the last l time someone put a hair sandwich on the line
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That'd be asking a lot considering he's only ever scored 43 (twice) on the offensive powerhouse Capitals at the age of 28/29.
I don't think anybody wants him to fail. Just given the historically terrible season it's hard to be confident in anything else other than what we've seen.
To answer the OP's question, no way they buyout Brouwer until the end of 2018-19 when they have major contracts to worry about (Tkachuk, Ferland and possibly Bennett).
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07-17-2017, 06:33 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Hopefully he spends this whole offseason trimming down and doing power skating, though he doesn't strike me as the kind of guy with that kind of off-season work ethic and determination. Basically our new Wideman contract, we'll suck it up, hope he can still play on power play and our 4C / 4LW can carry him otherwise, and then buy out year 4 to pay Tkachuk/Ferland.
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07-17-2017, 06:36 PM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Anduril
That'd be asking a lot considering he's only ever scored 43 (twice) on the offensive powerhouse Capitals at the age of 28/29.
I don't think anybody wants him to fail. Just given the historically terrible season it's hard to be confident in anything else other than what we've seen.
To answer the OP's question, no way they buyout Brouwer until the end of 2018-19 when they have major contracts to worry about (Tkachuk, Ferland and possibly Bennett).
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Yes, but he did put up 33 in the lockout-shortened season. That's a 58 point pace.
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07-17-2017, 06:36 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: In the studio
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gundo
If any of the Brouwer haters are that confident in his failure, bet eating your pubes on it. It went well the last l time someone put a hair sandwich on the line
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07-17-2017, 06:43 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Rocky Mt House
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher
Dumb thread is dumb
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Completely off topic here
Rant:
I hate that dumb is spelled with the B when referring to something idiotic.
Dumb means unable to speak and should not have any references to lack of smarts.
I speculate that the word used like this has its origins in a shortened form of dummy. A dummy is a puppet of sorts and obviously lacks intelligence. Dumb should be spelled dum. Of course if I did that, I would probably be called dumb. /rant
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07-17-2017, 06:44 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Strathmore
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Hey fellas....if you don't like the thread, move on. No need to blast the op.
Some of you seem to take the posts personal. Not sure why.
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07-17-2017, 06:48 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by wired
Hey fellas....if you don't like the thread, move on. No need to blast the op.
Some of you seem to take the posts personal. Not sure why.
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Like it or not you're judged on presentation, and this thread was presented horribly. No one is attacking the OP personally, just the way he started this thread.
As for Brouwer, hoping it was a poor season and he bounces back to the 15-20 goal/35-40 point player he's been for years.
I'll also take issue with GrandteEV's take on Brouwer's off season. Troy has been known for his work ethic and determination for most of his career, those and leadership. Really strange to question his off season ethics.
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07-17-2017, 06:52 PM
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#20
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: SW Calgary
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Worst season of his career with a fracture in his hand. Was he half the player he usually is when he came back from injury? Yes. Has he been one of the most consistent players in the league for 7 years? Also yes. Has there ever been rumours of him slacking off or not taking things serious? Every team he's played for has talked about his work ethic and suddenly overnight he's just a bigger Mason Raymond?
People have plenty of reason to be upset at the year he had but thinking that it will be the trend going forward is foolish
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Originally Posted by wired
Hey fellas....if you don't like the thread, move on. No need to blast the op.
Some of you seem to take the posts personal. Not sure why.
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So we can only reply if we agree?
I don't think anyone blasted the op, he's a good poster. Just blasted the dumb stuff he wrote
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