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While I would have thought his rise to the top would have taken a lot longer, it was an awesome thing to watch. But Frank's fall is going to have to be epic, like Breaking Bad there's no way that he can walk away from this series whole. I suspect Rachel will play a big role in his inevitable destruction, and seeing the President of the United States go down for murder would be an epic finale
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When can we start talking about it without the spoiler tags?
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While I would have thought his rise to the top would have taken a lot longer, it was an awesome thing to watch. But Frank's fall is going to have to be epic, like Breaking Bad there's no way that he can walk away from this series whole. I suspect Rachel will play a big role in his inevitable destruction, and seeing the President of the United States go down for murder would be an epic finale
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If they stay true to the British version, what you're suggesting as the ending is not nearly as awesome by comparison to what happened in that
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Episode 3 has me a little confused (text sent to IT guy's phone ??)
Binge-watched the whole thing. Much better than first season now that characters are more developed.
Garret Walker's initials and mouth/lips keep reminding me of G.W. Bush.
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When can we start talking about it without the spoiler tags?
There is a spoiler warning in the title, I say go for it.
I can't help but think the Zoe thing hurt the show in the long run. Frank and her had a great dynamic and I would have liked to have seen it for another season.
As shocking and as great at the train moment was, I felt like it hurt the show in the long run.
I can't help but think the Zoe thing hurt the show in the long run. Frank and her had a great dynamic and I would have liked to have seen it for another season.
As shocking and as great at the train moment was, I felt like it hurt the show in the long run.
Liked the season for sure though.
My thought is that Kate Mara wanted off the show for some reason, thus the quick exit (reinforced by her being cast in the new Fantastic Four movie). From how the first season ended, they seemed to have setup Zoe and her two reporter friends to be the main anti-Frank group trying to take him down, but then after she died the other two characters were pushed aside rather quickly and Raymond Tusk was setup as the nemesis
I was quite disappointed that Kate Mara's character exited. She was a beaut, and an extra motivation to watch- Kind of like when you tip an extra percent or two when you have a good looking or outgoing waitress. I really enjoyed the season, despite it all.
7 episodes into second season (side note - didn't know when it was safe to enter this thread, given you can binge watch the show and post whatever and whenever )
Anyways, pretty awesome season so far! Agree it's getting to the point where you either want to see Frank fail along the way as everything seems to work out for him. Or else it has to be setting itself up for a big fall if/when he gets to the top. Things just always seem to constantly go his and Claire's way.
Hoping the Zoe, Lucas, etc, reporter angle continues but it seems to be getting killed off, at least where I am in the season. Liked how Lucas was trying to keep the torch going and seemed like an interesting storyline was developing on that end. But that could be over and done with as each character that might carry it on gets dealt with. Might come down to Rachel (and Doug's feelings for her) at this point. I always root for the underdog though so Im a bit bias but can appreciate the realism in that it's a huge uphill battle on the Zoe, Lucas side of things.
Enjoying the second season though!
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Finished the 2nd season, and I avoided this thread like the plague due to the fact you can binge watch it and post spoilers…so in the spirit of that…
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You have been warned.
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Ok, poor Doug. He got almost nothing out of all the stuff he did for Frank, and then it just ends for him like that. Just awful. Not saying I feel bad for him, but I feel for his character. It's not like Zoe where she knew the dangers of what she was doing but did it anyway.
Things that annoy me about the season:
1) Tusk's 180 at the hearing. Why? What could he possibly have to gain other than the ability to hurt the president? He doesn't strike me as someone who would be willing to go to jail just to get back at someone who hurt his feelings. Pretty stupid plot point if you ask me.
2) Lucas' love for Zoe. Almost completely unreciprocated and it led to his downfall. What an idiot. JMO, but he got everything he deserved. Nobody forced him to commit a crime.
3) The threesome. What? Why? How does that further the plot? What will it do down the road? Unless it has the potential for a major scandal (which I seriously doubt considering the loyalty of the 3rd party), I have no idea what purpose that scene has in the story.
4) Everything working out so perfectly for Frank, despite everyone knowing he's not to be trusted. You'd think someone else would get involved and do something about his actions, but they all just stand by and let it happen. Just weird.
5) A lack of resolution to Remy's storyline. It's like they forgot they had this character with significant things to wrap up. What's his next career move? What's going to happen with his relationship? Serious question marks going forward.
Things I love about this season:
1) The sheer convolutedness (is that a word) of the plot. So many story lines going on, so many interested parties involved with very different interests. Seeing it all interweave and come together was amazing to behold.
2) Jackie's character. Loved that they had a legitimately strong female character that has her own agenda separate from everyone else's and had the ability to make things happen. Plus, I love Molly Parker.
3) The links to current politics on many different fronts: China, phone records, super pacs, rape in the military etc. It feels a little like Law and Order "ripped from the headlines" episodes, but more nuanced and less forced.
4) Rachel still being a wildcard this far into the story. I'm surprised she's lasted, but at the same time I realize it's to complete something big. Can't wait to see what it is.
I'm looking forward to next season only to see where they go from here. Lots has happened so far and it will be interesting to see what kind of story they want to tell next.
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Finished the 2nd season, and I avoided this thread like the plague due to the fact you can binge watch it and post spoilers…so in the spirit of that…
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You have been warned.
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Ok, poor Doug. He got almost nothing out of all the stuff he did for Frank, and then it just ends for him like that. Just awful. Not saying I feel bad for him, but I feel for his character. It's not like Zoe where she knew the dangers of what she was doing but did it anyway.
Things that annoy me about the season:
1) Tusk's 180 at the hearing. Why? What could he possibly have to gain other than the ability to hurt the president? He doesn't strike me as someone who would be willing to go to jail just to get back at someone who hurt his feelings. Pretty stupid plot point if you ask me.
2) Lucas' love for Zoe. Almost completely unreciprocated and it led to his downfall. What an idiot. JMO, but he got everything he deserved. Nobody forced him to commit a crime.
3) The threesome. What? Why? How does that further the plot? What will it do down the road? Unless it has the potential for a major scandal (which I seriously doubt considering the loyalty of the 3rd party), I have no idea what purpose that scene has in the story.
4) Everything working out so perfectly for Frank, despite everyone knowing he's not to be trusted. You'd think someone else would get involved and do something about his actions, but they all just stand by and let it happen. Just weird.
5) A lack of resolution to Remy's storyline. It's like they forgot they had this character with significant things to wrap up. What's his next career move? What's going to happen with his relationship? Serious question marks going forward.
Things I love about this season:
1) The sheer convolutedness (is that a word) of the plot. So many story lines going on, so many interested parties involved with very different interests. Seeing it all interweave and come together was amazing to behold.
2) Jackie's character. Loved that they had a legitimately strong female character that has her own agenda separate from everyone else's and had the ability to make things happen. Plus, I love Molly Parker.
3) The links to current politics on many different fronts: China, phone records, super pacs, rape in the military etc. It feels a little like Law and Order "ripped from the headlines" episodes, but more nuanced and less forced.
4) Rachel still being a wildcard this far into the story. I'm surprised she's lasted, but at the same time I realize it's to complete something big. Can't wait to see what it is.
I'm looking forward to next season only to see where they go from here. Lots has happened so far and it will be interesting to see what kind of story they want to tell next.
I'm not spoiler tagging this as the thread is warning enough now. I was actually fist pumping when Doug got taken out. He tried to control Rachel's life for his own selfish reasons and she finally snapped, no one to blame for his end but himself. I just hope she ends back up with that cute bible chick because that was hot. For your other points:
1. With Feng flipping on Tusk it was his only move after the President went soft with Frank. He was going down either way, but by "ratting" on the president he could be seen as co-operating with the investigation and get a plea deal
3. We know Frank is bi after his college reunion episode when he reminisced with his old male lover, so there's no surprise there. I think the scene was included to remind us just how deep a partnership Frank and Claire have, and now they've brought Meechum into their inner circle
4. It wasn't perfect for Frank given that he had to write that hail marry letter and pin his entire future on the president being a softy. But now that he's at the top I bet we'll see a lot more people targeting him than ever before
5. I don't see why they needed to resolve Remy this season. There's plenty he could do in season 3 so along with Rachel it's just a loose end that we'll need to wait and see with
I wasn't surprised Tusk turned on the President. He knew the President was done when Jackie took the deal away, obviously Frank got to him. I think this was Tusk's best move he had left.
I'm also not surprised they let Remy wither on the vine through to the end of the season. It played exactly how Frank wanted it to. Remy will continue to be a big part of the series moving forward.
I absolutely loved Claire being harsh with Frank towards the end to harden his resolve for his last move. That relationship is pretty awesome. Do those two ever turn on each other? I hope not.
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