I agree with the idea of letting the market decide. As far as I'm aware, this is private property and the owners of said property can do what they want on it within the bounds of their licensing and the law.
I don't go to the Ranchman's because of the type of clientele that frequents this establishment and the in my opinion crap music they play.
Do I complain and demand they don't allow Testosterone filled Cowpokes and annoying drunk Cowgirls on the patio so I can go there and grab a pint or a bite without having my appetite ruined? I do not, I just choose to spend my time (and money) somewhere else.
On a side note, we were camping out by Kimberly some years back and were pleasantly surprised how dog friendly it was there. Patios, stores and the outdoor museums in the area (coal mine museum, Fort Steele) all allowed us to come in with our dog, which made our holiday a lot more enjoyable.
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Ok...so it is a "designated" area...the dogs would still be around the general premisis where there is food around...that I DO NOT agree with...For sure I wont be going to Ranchmans to eat...but I am with someone else on this thread....I dont want to start seeing dogs in grocery stores...etc....I understand that dogs are a mans best friend...but its an easy equation.....dogs are not humans....no matter how someone tries to swing it...
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Sounds to me like they're in a designated, contained section as they said on the news last night. If you don't like the idea of dogs around your food (even from a distance) - don't sit in that section. If you don't like the idea of dogs anywhere near you while you're having a beer - go to a different patio and stop making a big deal out of something that isn't a big deal. No one's forcing you to go to Ranchmans, and I highly doubt they're doing this to 'just make the news'...yeah, how dare they try to cater to dog owners! A lot of places are starting to do this with a lot of success. I really don't see why you would be so outraged.
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I find it sad that you have to look to an animal to find companionship of that order.
I guess we look for different things in "best friends".
I'm not alone in that aspect. There are thousands of examples out there that support my feelings but I'll just pick one here...
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Jon Tumilson, a Navy SEAL, was one of 30 Americans killed in Afghanistan on Aug. 6 when a rocket-propelled grenade took out a U.S. Chinook helicopter. He was mourned at a service in Rockford, Iowa, attended by 1,500 family members, friends--and Hawkeye, Tumilson's dog.
The Labrador retriever was such an important part of Tumilson's life that the friends and family of the San Diego resident called the dog his "son."
When Tumilson's friend Scott Nichols walked to the front of the room to speak, Hawkeye followed, Today.com reports. "As Nichols prepared to memorialize his friend, Hawkeye dutifully laid down near the casket," Scott Stump writes.
If you're worried about a hair in your food, you probably shouldn't be eating in pubic. At all. How is a dog sitting 15 feet away worse than a dog walking by the patio? That dog comes MUCH closer to your food. If it freaks you out that much, don't go! As for regulations & safety, they've made it pretty clear that the dog will not be allowed anywhere near the food prep, obviously.:
Thats a pretty impressive list of regulations etc., however, dog hair is much worse then most other "contaminats" that can make it to my food.
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Last I looked Ranchmans was a privately owned enterprise and thus are entitled to do whatever they want, within the law.... and the law now allows for them to allow dogs on their patio. Get over it. If you don't like it, go somewhere else... there are plenty of other places that don't allow dogs, to chose from.
As for fur in you food, who pays for my meal when I get some of your dandruff in mine?
previous to this change in regulation for ranchmans, dogs were not allowed in places that sold food.
Besides your use of the word enterprise, you show that you do not understand the scope of business and health regulations. Again, the city farewell knows that if it gets enough complaints of your dogs fur in other patrons food they will shutdown ranchman's license to allow dogs, its really that simple. This is a pilot project with the intent of showing that this will not work.
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The restaurant that made the decision that more people will come because of the ability to bring a dog then will stay home, or refuse to pay, because of the presence of dogs. Hence capitalism.
And don't give me this health risk garbage, this is a dog sitting on a patio, there's a hell of a lot more going on in the kitchens at a lot of restaurants that should concern you more than that.
Not sure if serious, I have a dog, cleaned twice a week, she in all hell knows she is not allowed in the kitche/dining area, that is absolutley off limits. Dogs are inherently dirty animals, they lick their own asses. It is a health risk as defined by health Canada.
Federal laws and regulations override all provincial legislature, so if health Canada heard complaints about Ranchman's I'll bet anything that this pilot program will be shutdown.
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Zero. However, along with hair there are a lot of other contaminates that can make it into your food when it's not prepared by you. It a risk we all take when eating out. It's an acceptable risk, to an extent, for me, as I enjoy eating out.
I cannot fathom what filth you live in, when in your world dogs fur is ok in food. You must love pubes in food.
Its not an acceptable risk for me, and I could like ranchman's. I do not want your belief in your right to bring your dog there to infringe on my right to enjoy a meal on that patio at ranchmans.
*I have not been to ranchman's since i was 18, that was 10 years ago.
Ok...so it is a "designated" area...the dogs would still be around the general premisis where there is food around...that I DO NOT agree with...For sure I wont be going to Ranchmans to eat...but I am with someone else on this thread....I dont want to start seeing dogs in grocery stores...etc....I understand that dogs are a mans best friend...but its an easy equation.....dogs are not humans....no matter how someone tries to swing it...
Thats a pretty impressive list of regulations etc., however, dog hair is much worse then most other "contaminats" that can make it to my food.
previous to this change in regulation for ranchmans, dogs were not allowed in places that sold food.
Besides your use of the word enterprise, you show that you do not understand the scope of business and health regulations. Again, the city farewell knows that if it gets enough complaints of your dogs fur in other patrons food they will shutdown ranchman's license to allow dogs, its really that simple. This is a pilot project with the intent of showing that this will not work.
Not sure if serious, I have a dog, cleaned twice a week, she in all hell knows she is not allowed in the kitche/dining area, that is absolutley off limits. Dogs are inherently dirty animals, they lick their own asses. It is a health risk as defined by health Canada.
Federal laws and regulations override all provincial legislature, so if health Canada heard complaints about Ranchman's I'll bet anything that this pilot program will be shutdown.
I cannot fathom what filth you live in, when in your world dogs fur is ok in food. You must love pubes in food.
Its not an acceptable risk for me, and I could like ranchman's. I do not want your belief in your right to bring your dog there to infringe on my right to enjoy a meal on that patio at ranchmans.
*I have not been to ranchman's since i was 18, that was 10 years ago.
One of the dumbest things I heard from a friend... if there was a chance to save a dog in a burning building or a human, he would save his dog....he would save the dog WTF?!??!! I hate it when people compare dogs to humans....
Congrats, but I enjoy a "best friend" that can carry on a conversation. I am not looking for a "yes man".
Dude, dogs are good friends, if you have one I dont' know how you can think otherwise. But as intelligent humans we must recognize that these are still animals.
Dude, dogs are good friends, if you have one I dont' know how you can think otherwise. But as intelligent humans we must recognize that these are still animals.
Exactly, I have no issue with dogs, other than picking up hot steaming poo.
What get's me is people is people saying dogs are their best friends and giving them human attributes.
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I cannot fathom what filth you live in, when in your world dogs fur is ok in food. You must love pubes in food.
Its not an acceptable risk for me, and I could like ranchman's. I do not want your belief in your right to bring your dog there to infringe on my right to enjoy a meal on that patio at ranchmans.
*I have not been to ranchman's since i was 18, that was 10 years ago.
I said zero hair in my food is acceptable. All I said was that I would be nieve to think that my food at all times is free of comaminents. I'm sure 99% of the time it is. But the 1% of the time - the risk that there might be a hair in my food isn't going to stop me from going out and enjoying a meal. If I find hair in my food I would send it back and probably not visit that establishment again. However, it's not going to scare me away from eating out. I'm not certain how that makes me a person who loves living in filth, or a person who enjoys eating food with pubic hair in it, but I suppose everyone has their own method of debate.
Anyways - there is an easy way for you to avoid getting a dog hair in your food. Don't go to Ranchmans
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