04-25-2017, 05:05 PM
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Location: Calgary, AB
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Not surprising. I am surprised that it's a four-year deal, though. Seems long for a first-time NHL coach.
Wasn't Gulutzan's deal only 2 years?
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04-25-2017, 08:03 PM
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#22
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Probably demanded 4 years. That way he's making some coins when he is fired after two. Takes a while to get back in when you coach some gross mess of a team. Just like Dallas Eakins. But I guess he was dumb also. That's a wash.
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04-25-2017, 08:08 PM
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Crash and Bang Winger
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And according to Global TV, he has 385k lifetime winnings as a poker player.
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04-25-2017, 09:05 PM
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by getbak
Not surprising. I am surprised that it's a four-year deal, though. Seems long for a first-time NHL coach.
Wasn't Gulutzan's deal only 2 years?
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There was a lot of talk last summer when Green's name started to come up in coaching searches that he would only accept a position as a NHL HC, and would refuse to accept an assignment as an assistant. He reminds me a little of Eakins insofar as he has been a high profile emerging NHL coach for a few years, and he knows it. The length of term was probably his insistence to keep him from exploring other coaching opportunities outside of Vancouver, but like with Eakins, there is a higher risk if this does not work out.
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04-25-2017, 10:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by getbak
Not surprising. I am surprised that it's a four-year deal, though. Seems long for a first-time NHL coach.
Wasn't Gulutzan's deal only 2 years?
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Although Dallas Eakins got four years. Err... carry on.
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04-26-2017, 12:12 AM
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Location: Sweden
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The many parallells to Eakins leads me to believe this is not going to end well for Travis Green.
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04-26-2017, 12:52 AM
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Desjardins got the short end of the stick. Would love to see him in Buffalo.
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04-26-2017, 12:54 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia.
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Originally Posted by Love
Desjardins got the short end of the stick. Would love to see him in Buffalo.
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Willie got what you get when you go against what your bosses tell you to do.
If he could adapt and work with the younger players, he would still be coaching the Canucks.
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04-26-2017, 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Blaster86
Willie got what you get when you go against what your bosses tell you to do.
If he could adapt and work with the younger players, he would still be coaching the Canucks.
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He's been a notorious winner throughout his tenure as a coach. He was working with nothing out there in Vancouver.
I've heard of the whole "Horvat was playing on the fourth line......" shtick from Canuck fans, and I don't know too much about that situation to comment on it, but Bo still ended the season averaging above 18minutes a game (which would be ahead of every forward not named Gaudreau on the Flames). Granlund had the same amount of TOI/game as Sean Monahan. 9 game rookie Boeser and Sven Baertschi were averaging >16 minutes on the ice time / game. College rookie sensation Troy Stecher was given top four minutes from the jump. Not sure what you wanted him to do. If anything, he was overachieving with this roster.
Last edited by Love; 04-26-2017 at 01:06 AM.
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04-26-2017, 07:50 AM
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Love
...a notorious winner...
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Is this the embodiment of the same kind of winning that Donald Trump alluded to when he said that Americans would get sick of winning?
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04-26-2017, 08:31 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Maple Bay, B.C.
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04-26-2017, 08:37 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Originally Posted by dash_pinched
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Vancouver sports media while not nearly as bad as Toronto is still pretty awful. That's kind of an unnecessary negative slant for a local reporter.
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04-26-2017, 09:31 AM
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UnModerator
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Love
He's been a notorious winner throughout his tenure as a coach. He was working with nothing out there in Vancouver.
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The issue wasn't that he was "Working with nothing." The issue was he kept trying to force nothing onto a wing with the Sedins.
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Originally Posted by Love
Not sure what you wanted him to do.
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Adapt and learn that the same things will not always have the exact same results. He wouldn't/couldn't and now he's out of a job.
It would be no different for you and I at our jobs if we took a similar approach. Boss says change, you refuse. You get fired.
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04-26-2017, 09:46 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Looking at their wingers he could have rolled the dice every night and "nothing" would still be playing on the Sedin's wing. If Sven Baertschi is your top winger you essentially have nothing.
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04-26-2017, 09:49 AM
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They have Goldobin, who is a skilled guy. He played on their wing in the game I went to while I was in Arizona. I suspect that's more what Blaster would have wanted. Or maybe Boeser, but IIRC he was only around for 8 games.
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04-26-2017, 10:29 AM
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Originally Posted by dash_pinched
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I just listened to Ben Kuzma on TSN 1040 in the last hour, and while he is much more bullish on the Green hire, I found it interesting that like Botchford he also took note of Sven Baertschi as Green's "AHL success story." If this is the best mark that Green has on his resume, then that seems like a legitimate concern.
Also, I can't help but notice that he has only five years of head coaching experience in total—one year in Portland, and four in Utica in the AHL. Green certainly is green, and perhaps that helps to explain why his team's winning percentage has declined two years in a row now.
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04-26-2017, 10:34 AM
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Apparently, Green is doing the Grouse Grind this AM.
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04-26-2017, 10:46 AM
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#38
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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That caught my eye as well as Sven's career high is 35 points so talk about setting the bar incredibly low in regards to success stories.
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04-26-2017, 10:47 AM
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UnModerator
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
They have Goldobin, who is a skilled guy. He played on their wing in the game I went to while I was in Arizona. I suspect that's more what Blaster would have wanted. Or maybe Boeser, but IIRC he was only around for 8 games.
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And what Jim Benning wanted.
When the team bottomed out, it was time to see what these younger players can do. Instead? MORE MEGNA!
When your boss goes on tv and says "Willie has bought into playing the young guys" and the game that night has two young guys scratched and Megna with the Sedins, you sort of put yourself in a bad place.
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04-26-2017, 11:23 AM
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#40
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Coaching is not the problem in Vancouver. The problem is that their team sucks. I don't think a prime Scotty Bowman would get that roster to the dance.
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