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Old 04-23-2017, 12:09 PM   #21
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Old 04-23-2017, 01:01 PM   #22
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A Flame (and one of our best players) is nominated for a major NHL award and the response is:

- he whines too much to win
- he doesn't deserve to win it this year
- the award is dumb/lame and shouldn't exist

Seriously? That's the best CP can do? Why bother being a fan if you can't celebrate the achievements of our players. /rant
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Old 04-23-2017, 01:17 PM   #23
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I don't mind the existence of Lady Byng award, but I don't think anyone seriously considers it to be a major award.
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Old 04-23-2017, 01:20 PM   #24
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A Flame (and one of our best players) is nominated for a major NHL award and the response is:

- he whines too much to win
- he doesn't deserve to win it this year
- the award is dumb/lame and shouldn't exist

Seriously? That's the best CP can do? Why bother being a fan if you can't celebrate the achievements of our players. /rant
I think most people don't believe Johnny deserves it. I think rookie Johnny and last year Johnny definitely did. He complained all season and didn't show up when the Flames needed him most.
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Old 04-23-2017, 01:21 PM   #25
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I think most people don't believe Johnny deserves it. I think rookie Johnny and last year Johnny definitely did. He complained all season and didn't show up when the Flames needed him most.
What does that have to do with this award, even if it were true?
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Old 04-23-2017, 01:29 PM   #26
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I think most people don't believe Johnny deserves it. I think rookie Johnny and last year Johnny definitely did. He complained all season and didn't show up when the Flames needed him most.
Most people who live in their mom's basement posting on CP between games of NHL 16, maybe.
Please don't speak for the rest of us.
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Old 04-23-2017, 06:29 PM   #27
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just saw the news officially...

Congrats to Johnny though...not one of the "big awards" but still a nice feather in the cap...

2 penalties all year? doesn't even seem possible...
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Old 04-23-2017, 07:08 PM   #28
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Most people who live in their mom's basement posting on CP between games of NHL 16, maybe.

Please don't speak for the rest of us.


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A Flame (and one of our best players) is nominated for a major NHL award and the response is:

- he whines too much to win
- he doesn't deserve to win it this year
- the award is dumb/lame and shouldn't exist

Seriously? That's the best CP can do? Why bother being a fan if you can't celebrate the achievements of our players. /rant

I am one of those who does not think Johnny warrants the award, but I do think he deserves to be in the conversation. It's a legitimate opinion to hold and doesn't make me any less of a Flames fan.

Please consider that a dissenting opinion about a Flames player's performance is not unreasonable.

(For the record, I live in my OWN basement. #SoThere )
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Old 04-23-2017, 07:15 PM   #29
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A Flame (and one of our best players) is nominated for a major NHL award and the response is:

- he whines too much to win
- he doesn't deserve to win it this year
- the award is dumb/lame and shouldn't exist

Seriously? That's the best CP can do? Why bother being a fan if you can't celebrate the achievements of our players. /rant
I do not celebrate sportsmanship nor gentlemanly conduct in hockey.
Am I therefore disqualified as a fan?

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Old 04-23-2017, 08:37 PM   #30
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I do not celebrate sportsmanship nor gentlemanly conduct in hockey.
That's fine. But are suggesting then that Johnny should thug it up and take some extra penalties so he's not up for the award next year? In the last dozen years, Datsyuk won the Lady Byng four times; Martin St. Louis three times. If he can live up to that billing, that is a good thing IMO.

Instead, people would rather complain about the award or that Johnny is an undeserving finalist. Heaven forbid he actually win it or something
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Congrats to Gaudreau for the nomination. Say what you want about the award but there are some damn good players with their name on the trophy.
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Old 04-23-2017, 09:21 PM   #32
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I wonder if Granlund and Tarasenko had to put up as many slashes and abuse as Gaudreau had to put up with. People give him slack for one event of diving, but what do you expect from a guy who doesn't slash back or bother getting involved in scrums? His defense is either do nothing, rely on the referee's (which hasn't helped), fight back (he's not a fighter), or persuading the referees by a little embellishment.

If you ask me, Gaudreau wouldn't have to dive at times if referee's did their ####ing job.
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Absurdity of the NHL:

March 10 - fine Gaudreau $2k for diving

June 21 - pay Gaudreau at least $50k for finishing top 3 in voting for a sportsmanship award (Lady Byng finalists get $150k, $100k, or $50k for finishing 1st, 2nd, or 3rd respectively from the league)
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Old 04-24-2017, 10:07 AM   #34
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Am I therefore disqualified as a fan?
Probably, yes.
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Old 04-24-2017, 10:13 AM   #35
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I do not celebrate sportsmanship nor gentlemanly conduct in hockey.
Am I therefore disqualified as a fan?
Lol, it actually does if you think about it. If you do not celebrate sportsmanship, then really, you don't really care about the integrity of sport. So then I'd argue you aren't a fan of the sport itself, you're just a fan of the team you cheer for winning.
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It might work better to repurpose this award to make it similar to the Masterton - rather than it be just top scorers with low PIMs, have teams nominate their "best sportsman" and then have the voting on that group.
What makes someone a good sport is much more than do they commit many penalties
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Absurdity of the NHL:

March 10 - fine Gaudreau $2k for diving

June 21 - pay Gaudreau at least $50k for finishing top 3 in voting for a sportsmanship award (Lady Byng finalists get $150k, $100k, or $50k for finishing 1st, 2nd, or 3rd respectively from the league)
Plus a trip to Vegas. Not a bad deal at the end of the day. Wheel of justice must have landed on jackpot.
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Old 04-24-2017, 01:08 PM   #38
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Does he get an award for lack of heart?
I think you mean "lack of Hart." A fairly easy award to win from what I've heard.
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No way will he win it. No writer outside of Jersey and western Canada watched enough games.
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No way will he win it. No writer outside of Jersey and western Canada watched enough games.
The other two aren't high profile either, and JG is an American, and a former Calder finalist. I think if anything he might have the notoriety edge.
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