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Old 04-22-2017, 11:14 AM   #61
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...Everyone has their own reasons for not going but I like seeing young players participate. I do believe it says something about them...
What exactly does the decision not to participate say about players who simply don't want to go?

I like watching Flames play at the WC, but we shouldn't be making judgments about them based on whether or not they decide to play. It seems like a silly thing to care much about.
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Old 04-22-2017, 11:26 AM   #62
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Yes, and we could pick 6 others closer to his salary range that would probably reflect less favorably on Gaudreau.
His PPG pace was ok. Given everything, he was ok. I wanted a bit more than ok.
Cap Friendly has a comparable salary link, and has the most comparable contracts to Johnny as follows:

Johnny 72GP-18G-43A-61P -7 cap hit: 6.75M

Forsberg 82-31-27-58 -4 Cap 6.00M
Saad 82-24-29-53 +23 Cap 6.00M
Barkov 61-21-31-52 +13 Cap 5.9M
Monahan 82-27-31-58 -1 Cap 6.375M
MacKinnon 82-16-37-52 -4 Cap 6.3M
Huberdeau 31-10-16-26 -2 Cap 5.9M
Couture 73-25-27-52 +11 Cap 6.00M
Stepan 81-17-38-55 +19 Cap 6.50M
Nugent-Hopkins 82-18-25-43 -10 Cap 6.00M

So, to me, he's right where he should be, based on pay.
Note that this doesn't amend for inflation, so older contracts are likely better deals.

https://www.capfriendly.com/comparab...-gaudreau-7357

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Old 04-22-2017, 12:03 PM   #63
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^ well played
I was thinking more like guys like Scheifele, but after flipping through the list I see there are way more who Gaudreau (even using this year's stats) compares favorably to, and almost none he doesn't.
I guess I stand corrected, and OP that I responded to is correct - I am expecting too much.
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Old 04-22-2017, 12:11 PM   #64
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^ well played
I was thinking more like guys like Scheifele, but after flipping through the list I see there are way more who Gaudreau (even using this year's stats) compares favorably to, and almost none he doesn't.
I guess I stand corrected, and OP that I responded to is correct - I am expecting too much.
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Old 04-22-2017, 12:14 PM   #65
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^ well played
I was thinking more like guys like Scheifele, but after flipping through the list I see there are way more who Gaudreau (even using this year's stats) compares favorably to, and almost none he doesn't.
I guess I stand corrected, and OP that I responded to is correct - I am expecting too much.
Thanks. I actually found that interesting and was curious, hence the "research".
I'm on my phone so it was a bit more difficult, and I couldn't find those above him in salary easily.
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What exactly does the decision not to participate say about players who simply don't want to go?

I like watching Flames play at the WC, but we shouldn't be making judgments about them based on whether or not they decide to play. It seems like a silly thing to care much about.
Why are you implying that I'm criticizing those players who don't go? Please don't attribute comments to me that I haven't made. I think it's good when a young player goes. Especially a young player like Johnny who last year signed a giant contract. It is possible to commend someone actions without criticizing others.

If it's a "silly thing to care much about" why are you debating it? Honestly that seems silly to me.
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