Wild Card Race (Western Conference)

[heep223]

Originally Posted by Sainters7

Apologies if this has already been mentioned, I don't really get to check this site during work unfortunately, but...

Why is it showing the Kings ahead of us in the standings when we're tied in points? Don't we hold the tiebreaker on them? We have more wins too. I know they have a game in hand on us, but this isn't baseball..

If two teams are tied the team with the most games remaining is ranked higher regardless of ROW or wins.

[The Fonz]

6 teams battling for 4 spots. I believe you can eliminate the Seguin-less Stars, and Avs, at this point.

Pacific/Central

DIV #2 Canucks - 61gp - 73pts
DIV #3 Kings - 60gp - 70pts
W/C #1 Jets - 63gp - 74pts
W/C #2 Wild - 61gp - 71pts

Flames - 61gp - 70pts
Sharks - 62gp - 68pts


ROW order: VAN (32) > MIN/CAL (30) > LA/SJ (28) > WPG (25)

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by Sainters7

Apologies if this has already been mentioned, I don't really get to check this site during work unfortunately, but...

Why is it showing the Kings ahead of us in the standings when we're tied in points? Don't we hold the tiebreaker on them? We have more wins too. I know they have a game in hand on us, but this isn't baseball..


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The first tiebreaker is points percentage.

[Sainters7]

Ah, didn't realize that. Thanks fellas


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[Obsidian]

Originally Posted by Sainters7

Apologies if this has already been mentioned, I don't really get to check this site during work unfortunately, but...

Why is it showing the Kings ahead of us in the standings when we're tied in points? Don't we hold the tiebreaker on them? We have more wins too. I know they have a game in hand on us, but this isn't baseball..


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It's because of the game in hand.

After that I think it's ROWs, then who had more points head to head in the season series.

[Tsawwassen]

Originally Posted by Sainters7

Apologies if this has already been mentioned, I don't really get to check this site during work unfortunately, but...

Why is it showing the Kings ahead of us in the standings when we're tied in points? Don't we hold the tiebreaker on them? We have more wins too. I know they have a game in hand on us, but this isn't baseball..


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Originally Posted by Resolute 14

The first tiebreaker is points percentage.

Originally Posted by Obsidian

It's because of the game in hand.

After that I think it's ROWs, then who had more points head to head in the season series.

Yep, point pctg, ROWs, head to head points, and then goal differential.

[Tsawwassen]

After Friday's games:


1. Winnipeg (31-20-12) 25 ROW, 74 pts
Vancouver (35-23-3) 32 ROW, 73 pts--second in Pacific Division
2. Minnesota (32-22-7) 30 ROW, 71 pts
Los Angeles (29-20-12) 28 ROW, 70 pts--third in the Pacific Division
3. Calgary (33-25-4) 30 ROW, 70 pts--and fourth in Pacific Division
4. San Jose (30-24-8) 28 ROW, 68 pts--and fifth in the Pacific Division
5. Colorado (27-24-11) 19 ROW, 65 pts
6. Dallas (27-25-10) 25 ROW, 64 pts

Kings and Flames lost in regulation
Avalanche won in the shootout
Stars lost in the shootout

[blender]

Going after Vancouver and LA in the pacific might still be the Flames best chance.

Despite the disappointment around here in the aftermath of the game on Long Island and the uncertainty around Gio's injury, they are still right in there.

I still believe!

[Itse]

To catch Minnesota or Winnipeg: win the remaining head to head match, plus win one more of the other remaining games. Not easy, but we only need to beat one or the other, not both.

To catch Vancouver: win two more games than them, with one less game left. This is our third straw.

To catch LA: win the head to head game, and have the same record. This I'm guessing is going to be borderline impossible.

I'm also guessing 96 points will not be enough to make it.

[Tsawwassen]

Originally Posted by Itse

To catch Minnesota or Winnipeg: win the remaining head to head match, plus win one more of the other remaining games. Not easy, but we only need to beat one or the other, not both.

To catch Vancouver: win two more games than them, with one less game left. This is our third straw.

To catch LA: win the head to head game, and have the same record. This I'm guessing is going to be borderline impossible.

I'm also guessing 96 points will not be enough to make it.

Why is catching LA "borderline impossible" when the Flames need a better record to catch the other teams?

[Tsawwassen]

After Saturday's games:


1. Winnipeg (31-20-12) 25 ROW, 74 pts
Vancouver (35-23-3) 32 ROW, 73 pts--second in Pacific Division
2. Minnesota (33-22-7) 31 ROW, 73 pts
Los Angeles (29-20-12) 28 ROW, 70 pts--third in the Pacific Division
3. Calgary (33-25-4) 30 ROW, 70 pts--and fourth in Pacific Division
4. San Jose (30-25-8) 28 ROW, 68 pts--and fifth in the Pacific Division
5. Colorado (27-25-11) 19 ROW, 65 pts
6. Dallas (27-25-10) 25 ROW, 64 pts

Wild won in regulation
Avalanche and Sharks lost in regulation

[Itse]

Originally Posted by Tsawwassen

Why is catching LA "borderline impossible" when the Flames need a better record to catch the other teams?

Short version: "they're LA".

Long version: They're the best team of that bunch, and have started to play like it.

[Tsawwassen]

Originally Posted by Itse

Short version: "they're LA".

Long version: They're the best team of that bunch, and have started to play like it.

Okay, I don't dispute that they're LA and as the defending champs they simply turned it on for the 8 game winning streak. Still, the other best team of the bunch is Minnesota. They've been going wild since Coach Yeo went nuts on his team and also getting Dubnyk.

[Itse]

Originally Posted by Tsawwassen

Okay, I don't dispute that they're LA and as the defending champs they simply turned it on for the 8 game winning streak. Still, the other best team of the bunch is Minnesota. They've been going wild since Coach Yeo went nuts on his team and also getting Dubnyk.

True, and I always felt they were better than their record so it doesn't really surprise me that they've made some noise.

I just think Minnesota is more a good team on a hot streak than actually awesome. LA is awesome. We can also go hot, and Wild can go cold, but I don't see LA not being awesome in the spring.

(although honestly I'm not feeling very good about our playoff chances right now)

[malcolmk14]

A Jets win today puts the Flames in third in the division, but a Kings win keeps the Jets within 4 points of the Flames with 2 games in hand.

No matter what, I hope it isn't a 3-point game.

[keenan87]

At this point, I don't the Kings will miss so I would rather have a Jets loss in regulation.

[Street Pharmacist]

With a regulation game between Winnipeg and LA, our chances go up. 3 point game and they go down

[Tsawwassen]

After Sunday's games:


1. Winnipeg (32-20-12) 26 ROW, 76 pts
Vancouver (36-23-3) 32 ROW, 75 pts--second in Pacific Division
2. Minnesota (33-22-7) 31 ROW, 73 pts
Calgary (33-25-4) 30 ROW, 70 pts--third in the Pacific Division
3. Los Angeles (29-21-12) 28 ROW, 70 pts--and fourth in Pacific Division
4. San Jose (30-25-8) 28 ROW, 68 pts--and fifth in the Pacific Division
5. Colorado (27-25-11) 19 ROW, 65 pts
6. Dallas (27-26-10) 25 ROW, 64 pts

Jets won in regulation
Kings lost in regulation
Canucks won in the shootout

[crapshoot]

LA on the slippery slope again. They are having a very hard time being consistent this season, much like Boston.

[mrkajz44]

Based on the play of Winnipeg and Minnesota right now, it might be 3rd in the Pacific or nothing for us. Things seem to change so fast; even just a week ago everyone had LA as a lock, but now they are on the outside looking in again.