04-25-2024, 08:13 PM
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#441
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root
This statement is laughably wrong. I randomly chose one year, 2003, and here is a quick list of the best defensemen that year:
49: Weber
7: Suter
14: Seabrook
9: Phaneuf
20: Burns
249: Byfuglien
So then I figured I should try another year.. 2004
nobody
2005:
62: Letang
35: Vlassic
2006 and 2007: nobody
2008:
38: Josi
2: Doughty
4: Pietrangelo
15: Karlsson
so at least we finally found a couple that went before 8th
then I got bored and stopped
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None of those guys went 8th
If anything it shows there is a low correlation to picking D at 8th to franchise altering D
You confuse “can’t find a franchise altering D in the draft past 7th” with “should draft a D eighth that isn’t BPA because you need a franchise altering D
Because the odds of a franchise altering D being avail there is basically the same as in lower picks - which you nicely demonstrated
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04-25-2024, 08:26 PM
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#443
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache
On the U18 Canada- Sweden broadcast, the commentators were telling a story about asking Tij who his favourite team was today. He said the Oilers
That’ll need to change
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Please tell me that isn’t true
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04-25-2024, 08:30 PM
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#444
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Indiana
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Cale Makar is going to have to give Tij a call like he did with Kadri.
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04-25-2024, 08:38 PM
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#445
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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WTF
Now I don't want him. How did Iggy let that happen?
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04-25-2024, 08:56 PM
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#446
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Franchise Player
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Gross. Just absolutely disgusting.
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04-25-2024, 09:16 PM
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#447
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
We get stuck on labels
This draft is unique because of the high number of guys with top pairing potential
Which is a key piece. So it’s a great chance to get one
Franchise altering? I don’t know what that bar is
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Yeah, singling out "franchise altering D-men" as justification that you likely won't get a top pairing D man so why bother trying with a top 10 pick seems weird and misguided.
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04-25-2024, 09:21 PM
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#449
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Kids make mistakes. We were all young and dumb once
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04-25-2024, 09:28 PM
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#450
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First Line Centre
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I hope he said something like “the team I watch the most is the oilers because McDavid is very skilled offensively and I can’t wait to shut him down in a playoff series when I’m a flame”.
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04-25-2024, 09:47 PM
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#451
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jason14h
None of those guys went 8th
If anything it shows there is a low correlation to picking D at 8th to franchise altering D
You confuse “can’t find a franchise altering D in the draft past 7th” with “should draft a D eighth that isn’t BPA because you need a franchise altering D
Because the odds of a franchise altering D being avail there is basically the same as in lower picks - which you nicely demonstrated
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I thought you were arguing that if you want a franchise altering defenseman, you have to draft them in the top 8, and you aren't getting one later than 8th.
I was pointing out that many (maybe most) #1 defensemen are drafted later than 8th
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04-25-2024, 10:14 PM
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#452
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Toonage
Kids make mistakes. We were all young and dumb once
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His dad was once an Oiler fan too, that turned out pretty good.
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04-25-2024, 10:37 PM
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#453
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GOAT!
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If he's a Chucky fan (and, I mean who isn't), then he can be that die hard of an oiler fan
Roy's favourite growing up was the Nords. He won two Cups for the Habs and then two for the Nords/Avs.
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04-25-2024, 10:48 PM
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#454
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Mar 2024
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
The Flames need a franchise changing defenceman. If one slips to our spot you take him, you can't take Tij because of the last name.
We are building a team here. You win with a #1C and #1D not a bunch of wingers which we are deep in. If Tij is the BPA at our spot take him.
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The Flames need a franchise changing everything
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04-25-2024, 10:49 PM
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#455
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GOAT!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigThief
The Flames need a franchise changing everything
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We need a franchise-changing franchise.
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04-25-2024, 11:11 PM
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#456
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FanIn80
If he's a Chucky fan (and, I mean who isn't), then he can be that die hard of an oiler fan
Roy's favourite growing up was the Nords. He won two Cups for the Habs and then two for the Nords/Avs.
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Tanner Howe is the one who said his favorite player is Tkachuk. I think Vickers is implying Tij likes the oilers and McDavid
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04-25-2024, 11:34 PM
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#457
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jason14h
I’m confused . It doesn’t ring true that you find franchise altering D at 8th because lots were in the 2nd round ?
That’s actually the point - taking a D at 8 because you need a D and hope it will be franchise altering most likely won’t work . D are more unpredictable , especially outside being the top rated D in the draft
I would prefer the Flames keep acquiring lots of mid prospect D and aim for high end forwards with the 1st rounders, since as you have demonstrated most of the best D weren’t actually selected high - where forwards are more constantly
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Fair enough, I misunderstood your intent.
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04-26-2024, 05:24 AM
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#458
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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I got sick to my stomach when I heard that the Oilers were his favourite team. Like, your Dad is a Flames legend, and is an executive with the team right now. He couldn’t have just said, “I don’t have a favourite team”?
Screw him, move on, lol.
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04-26-2024, 06:16 AM
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#459
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Well a bit of a positive if the Flames pick him is that he won't have the pressure of playing for his favorite team ha ha.
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04-26-2024, 08:15 AM
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#460
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Oakville, ON
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Teenager gently rebels against Dad. I’m sure he has positive feelings towards the Flames but for a kid his age thats a harmless way to annoy your father plus the McDavid factor.
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