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Old 04-23-2024, 10:09 PM   #1781
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Look at it this way at this point. Whatever the return is now (a pick? Prospect? Both?), we will be getting rid of someone who doesn’t want to be here for whatever reason and gaining those assets and 6M in cap space and still have 2 goalies
Hoping it’s just $3 million in cap space as I hope Conroy can get Edwards to spend some of his pocket change to maximize the return value for Markstrom.
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Look at it this way at this point. Whatever the return is now (a pick? Prospect? Both?), we will be getting rid of someone who doesn’t want to be here for whatever reason and gaining those assets and 6M in cap space and still have 2 goalies
Not to mention we signed him as a free agent so everything is a gain. I think we will do well on Marky and better than what many think.
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I wonder if Markstrom and Pat Morris will keep it quiet as Conroy likely has requested they do.
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Old 04-23-2024, 10:15 PM   #1784
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Hoping it’s just $3 million in cap space as I hope Conroy can get Edwards to spend some of his pocket change to maximize the return value for Markstrom.
Sure, I guess what I was trying to say is at this point in our cycle, gaining the 6M in cap space for an unhappy 34 year old goalie who hasn’t proved much at times of pressure (not being mean, just stating facts) plus getting a few assets is a good move for us
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On one hand - it sucks to see Marky want out. He was a fav of mine.

On the other it'll be exciting to see Wolf take the reigns of the net and really run with it.
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Old 04-23-2024, 10:21 PM   #1786
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I have heard from multiple sources the deal would have been Holtz and a 2025 1st (protected) for Markstrom with retention and another player that I suspect was Rooney but cannot confirm that.
Oh man. What a win it would have been just to get rid of Rooney.
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Old 04-23-2024, 10:27 PM   #1787
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Oh man. What a win it would have been just to get rid of Rooney.
Rooney is just fine.
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If they wanted to get rid of Rooney they could have just not signed him after the TDL lol

The fact that they did sign him should tell you something. Watch him get flipped for an asset next TDL.
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Old 04-23-2024, 10:40 PM   #1789
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They can either get an asset to retain $3M or use the $6M toi take on a bad contract for an asset. Either way is good.
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Old 04-23-2024, 10:50 PM   #1790
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If they wanted to get rid of Rooney they could have just not signed him after the TDL lol

The fact that they did sign him should tell you something. Watch him get flipped for an asset next TDL.
4th liners don't get flipped at TDL's.
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Old 04-23-2024, 10:51 PM   #1791
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I wonder if Markstrom and Pat Morris will keep it quiet as Conroy likely has requested they do.
Well somebody is leaking or we wouldn’t be talking about it on here. if someone close to the flames is leaking it here, is it reasonable for the Flames to get mad if Markstrom’s camp plays the same games?
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I have heard from multiple sources the deal would have been Holtz and a 2025 1st (protected) for Markstrom with retention and another player that I suspect was Rooney but cannot confirm that.
That's a decent deal for both sides.
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4th liners don't get flipped at TDL's.
Uhh yes they do. 4th liners get traded all the time for late picks.
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Uhh yes they do. 4th liners get traded all the time for late picks.
Really? (not being flippant, genuinely curious). Any examples?
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Multiple teams are going to lose because of goaltending and come knocking...especially at 3M
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Old 04-23-2024, 11:46 PM   #1796
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Really? (not being flippant, genuinely curious). Any examples?
A couple of seasons ago, we acquired Carpenter at the deadline.
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Add me to the pile that will be shocked if we get a unprotected future 1st+ holtz worth of value for Markstrom.

If they were offered that and shut it down that is a huge miss...
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A couple of seasons ago, we acquired Carpenter at the deadline.
What about non Flames teams acquiring 4th liners at the deadline?
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What about non Flames teams acquiring 4th liners at the deadline?
Blake Comeau to Nashville. That was way back in 2013 though, so you might have a point.

You see it more often as throw-ins to balance contracts and money rather than trades in isolation, like Sam Carrick as part of the Henrique deal this year.

I guess there was also Patrick Maroon to Boston this year, but he also brings lots of playoff experience.
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What about non Flames teams acquiring 4th liners at the deadline?
This season:

Maroon to Bruins
Petan to Rangers
Carrick to Oilers
Dewar to Leafs
Okposo to Panthers
Duhaime to Avalanche
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