[Rumour] Brooks: Flames & Jets have contacted Rangers with regards to Raanta

[jayswin]

Rannta please! He's played way more games than most unproven back ups, comes with a reasonable salary and you can move on next season if he's not the one.

He's my top pick of what's left.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

He is an unproven backup and could easily suck for the Flames next year.

Me personally I am not for or against him but let's say it is Raanta and one of Elliott or Johnson I am not even close to convinced our goaltending is fixed

Maybe Raanta is Talbot or maybe he is Lack?

Raanta passes the eye test, has the stats to back it up(including high danger/medium danger) has done his time as a backup/understudy to two bonafide starters behind two vastly different teams, and is 28.

Raanta doesn't need to be Talbot or even good-Elliott/good-Johnson. He needs to be solid behind an excellent top four and hopefully competent bottom pair, on a team with some great penalty killing. The consistency he has shown despite sporadic opportunity is exactly what we need.

[goflamesgo18]

What could flames potentially give up for Raanta?

Missing our 2nd and 3rd pick this year and doubt they would trade 16OA for him.

Klimchuk plus 2nd/3rd in 2018?

[jayswin]

I wouldn't put it past Treliving to acquire a second round pick somewhere shortly.

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by goflamesgo18

What could flames potentially give up for Raanta?

Missing our 2nd and 3rd pick this year and doubt they would trade 16OA for him.

Klimchuk plus 2nd/3rd in 2018?

Would likely take more as it would cause the rangers to lose a different asset in the expansion draft. Has to be worth their while.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by goflamesgo18

What could flames potentially give up for Raanta?

Missing our 2nd and 3rd pick this year and doubt they would trade 16OA for him.

Klimchuk plus 2nd/3rd in 2018?

A drop down scenario makes some sense.

16th OA
Rittich

for

21st OA
Raanta


Flames drop 5 spots from 16 to 21 which carries the worth of about a 2nd round pick. Rittich gives the Rangers a young potential back up goalie who can still be sent to the AHL for more seasoning (if needed) without requiring waivers.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

A drop down scenario makes some sense.

16th OA
Rittich

for

21st OA
Raanta


Flames drop 5 spots from 16 to 21 which carries the worth of about a 2nd round pick. Rittich gives the Rangers a young potential back up goalie who can still be sent to the AHL for more seasoning (if needed) without requiring waivers.

I am not giving up Rittich AND moving down in the draft for Raanta. replace Rittich with McCollum or no trade down. I am really high on Rittich's potential and current ability level.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

I am not giving ip Rittich AND moving down in the draft for Raanta. replace Rittich with McCollum or no trade down.

And here I thought I'd get called a ridiculous homer.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by goflamesgo18

What could flames potentially give up for Raanta?

Missing our 2nd and 3rd pick this year and doubt they would trade 16OA for him.

Klimchuk plus 2nd/3rd in 2018?

I would entice them with our 1st and see what else they would add on their side. For example, our 1st and a bottom 6 roster player for Raanta, Hayes and future considerations depending on whether Raanta re-signs.

Then our center depth is improved as well and a subsequent trade could be completed for defense.

[Erick Estrada]

Do the Rangers stand to lose any decent players in the expansion draft outside of Rataa? If so I would imagine the trade offers have to be better than whatever would be the player that Las Vegas would take off their roster.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by jayswin

I wouldn't put it past Treliving to acquire a second round pick somewhere shortly.

Not sure how he could swing that without a decent player going the other way. Maybe Ferland could fetch a 2nd rounder but I'm not sure that makes much sense from the Flames perspective.

[goflamesgo18]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Not sure how he could swing that without a decent player going the other way. Maybe Ferland could fetch a 2nd rounder but I'm not sure that makes much sense from the Flames perspective.

maybe a deal like klimchuk and a 4th for mid-late 2nd

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

And here I thought I'd get called a ridiculous homer.

Technically, McCollum might be more NHL ready and posted better numbers than Rittich. He might make more sense for the Rangers anyways.

The big thing to me though is that moving down five spots means going from a potential high ceiling high risk guy like Liljegren/Necas/Suzuki/Makar/Pettersson who could make it to 16 to a Klimchuk type B-prospect destined for the 3rd line, especially with no big name Russians to take a flyer on at 22. To add Rittich on top of that would be an overpayment even for Raanta who i am high on, as goalies don't hold that kind of value to warrant adds. I would rather offer Curtis Lazar straight up, which is technically our 2nd.

[Lord Carnage]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

not surprising as Treliving's MO is to look at all options. Also looks like Rangers may be leaking this to up the offers they currently have on Raanta (remember when the Rangers supposedly had a 1st for Cam Talbot?)

http://nypost.com/2017/06/11/rangers...prove-elusive/

Is it just me, or does that make zero sense for Winnipeg? They'd have to expose Hellebuyck if trading for Raanta, which seems to make zero sense from their perspective...


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[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

A drop down scenario makes some sense.

16th OA
Rittich

for

21st OA
Raanta


Flames drop 5 spots from 16 to 21 which carries the worth of about a 2nd round pick. Rittich gives the Rangers a young potential back up goalie who can still be sent to the AHL for more seasoning (if needed) without requiring waivers.

Good lord! That would be a hell of a steal for Treliving to swap Raanta for Rittich and only having to drop down 5 spots in a weak draft. Also a good move since it opens up a spot for Parsons to play next year in the AHL.

Any Flames fan that isn't a fan of that trade is pretty much a fool IMO.


Oh...I see we have some fools among us.

[CMPunk]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

I am not giving up Rittich AND moving down in the draft for Raanta. replace Rittich with McCollum or no trade down. I am really high on Rittich's potential and current ability level.

If you trade McCollum, then you have to expose Raanta as the goalie from the Flames. McCollum is the only expansion draft eligible goalie the Flames have.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

I am not giving up Rittich AND moving down in the draft for Raanta. replace Rittich with McCollum or no trade down. I am really high on Rittich's potential and current ability level.

McCollum isn't getting traded because he's the only goalie in the system who meets the expansion draft exposure requirement.



For the Rangers, if they trade Raanta, they'll lose a different player, likely either Grabner or Hayes.

Under the rules of the expansion draft, they must expose 2 forwards who are under contract for next season, and they currently only have 7 forwards under contract for next season (Nash, Stepan, Kreider, Zuccarello, Miller, Hayes, and Grabner). Of those, Hayes and Grabner are the likely odd men out.

If the Flames plan on leaving Brouwer exposed, they have 3 players who meet the exposure requirement (Brouwer, Stajan, Bouma). They could send one of them to New York, which would allow the Rangers to protect either Hayes or Grabner.

[Roof-Daddy]

What is Raanta worth?

A 2nd and 3rd round pick similar to Cam Talbot 2 years ago?

Well, dropping from 16th to 21st is worth a 2nd round pick. We see it every year pretty much.

Is Rittich worth a 3rd round pick? This is a guy who is only a year older than Gillies and put up 2.27 / 0.924 as a rookie in the AHL. It's not inconceivable for a set of pro scouts to see the value of a 3rd round pick in Rittich.

I dunno, the value in my proposal isn't that out to lunch either way IMO. Maybe the Rags would have no interest in Rittich, so a different prospect with roughly the same value could be subbed in his place.

[Strange Brew]

Just not sure Rittich has any trade value. Maybe 3rd or 4th round pick but at that point, most teams would prefer drafting their own goalie IMO. He is more of an add-in candidate in a bigger deal.

[GranteedEV]

Do the people who think it's "foolish" to not want to throw Rittich into this deal have the same opinion if it's Gillies and not Rittich?

Originally Posted by getbak

McCollum isn't getting traded because he's the only goalie in the system who meets the expansion draft exposure requirement

Could we extend Johnson to meet the requirement?