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Old 04-03-2013, 02:38 PM   #201
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Thankfully it sounds like at least a contract offer is coming John Ramage's way.
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Um am I the only one who doesn't really know what he means by "post-apex" players?
Players past their prime.
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Old 04-03-2013, 02:39 PM   #203
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I think Feaster introduces a new buzz word everytime he wants to distract some of the children from the reality of the situation at hand.
He just said that was Weisbrod's term.
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Old 04-03-2013, 02:40 PM   #204
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Said he's in the pipeline, Brossiot and Granlund are ahead of him in the order right now just because they need to be signed by June 1st, but sounds like Ramage is definitely going to be signed. They just aren't worried about it right now.

My opinion is I think Ramage wants to finish up his school year at Wisconsin, still has exams, that's why he's not joining the Heat.
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Hanowski, Ramage, Brossoit, Granlund to be signed.

Brossiot and Granlund contract talks pretty far along

Gaudreau and Agostino will have contracts if they choose to leave college

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Its pretty incredible how bi-polar and asinine this place has become. Christ, what would of this place been like during the dark days? If this place wasnt a staple of my daily browsing I probably wouldnt show up anymore. I think some people need to take a break from the FOI thread.
It's funny, because the same people crying about it in this thread, were crying about the opposite thing last year when management's goal was to make the playoffs. Their whining last year though was that their goal wasn't to win the Stanley Cup.

A large segment (not all) of this forum has become a gathering area for whiners to internet high-five each other and collectively wallow in their woe.

I knew the usual suspects were going to go crazy in this thread and within the first page they certainly delivered.
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Plan going forward is to give players from Abbottsford a look see.

Will sit down with Hartley tomorrow and plan for the rest of the season.
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Old 04-03-2013, 02:41 PM   #208
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Good to see that Granlund and Broissoit are going to be getting contracts. The AHL team will finally be getting loaded up with Flames draft prospects instead of lifetime AHL fillers.
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Old 04-03-2013, 02:43 PM   #209
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Last thing, He says that he will have a contract ready for Hanowski as soon as the Frozen Four is finished. He's going out there this weekend to watch both Agostino and Hanowski in Pittsburgh. Interesting note, Gaudreau will also be in Pittsburgh, he didn't talk about it but I'm sure they will be talking as well, even though he said he would be talking with him this summer.
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Old 04-03-2013, 02:44 PM   #210
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Some of the takes on what Feaster said is really rich.

Does anyone literally believe that the next moves the Flames will be making is:

St. Louis 1st round draft pick + Pittsburgh's 1st round draft pick to St. Louis for Bouwmeester.

Re-sign Jarome for 4 years at 7 million.

Trade Calgary's 1st round pick for a 34 or so 2nd line center reclamation project

This organization is rebuilding. Not hard to see. Do they want to mandate: "We are trying to draft #1 next year! huh huh huh"

The order of every season from now on is "Make Playoffs". Will they sacrifice the future in order to do so? NO. "NO POST APEX PLAYERS".

Once they make the playoffs, their goal after that will probably shift into: "Win the Cup" - it is at this point that you hope they make intelligent moves in trading away SOME of the future to enhance the 'win now' - as long as they have a viable shot at it.

Just like Blue says: "Stop, Breathe and Think!"
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Old 04-03-2013, 02:45 PM   #211
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It's funny, because the same people crying about it in this thread, were crying about the opposite thing last year when management's goal was to make the playoffs. Their whining last year though was that their goal wasn't to win the Stanley Cup.

A large segment (not all) of this forum has become a gathering area for whiners to internet high-five each other and collectively wallow in their woe.

I knew the usual suspects were going to go crazy in this thread and within the first page they certainly delivered.
I think the fanbase has earned the right through experience to be wary when this team says it's goal is to make the playoffs. Especially after we basically just bottomed the team out. Stop acting so superior.
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Old 04-03-2013, 02:45 PM   #212
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Haha Feaster talking about how Conroy got dropped off in Red Deer when the Kings traded him to Calgary, about how NOT to conduct yourselves as a team when you trade a guy.
Yeah, nobody wants to play for the Kings.
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Old 04-03-2013, 02:45 PM   #213
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I like how some posters tell other posters to 'relax" or not "freak out". I think the posters that are "freaking out" have every right to do so.

Some of us have seen the writing on the wall for the last couple of years and had to hear " relax, don't freak out" only to have their worst dreams for this organization come true.

I'm not going to freak out now, but am i worried going into UFA, that the team will spend to get back in to the playoffs? Yes i am, and I hope they don't.
Absolutely you have every right to "freak out", but make sure you understand the context of comments that are making you freak out before you do so. For example, the "make playoffs" comment by Feaster sounded a lot worse on the TSN presser than after he clarified that it was to avoid relying on excuses and not striving to succeed as he stated on the FAN960 presser.

My comment was to those who had heard (or likely heard what they wanted to hear) and then didn't bother understanding or weren't able to listen to the follow up presser for clarification.
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$10 says this is the new intellectual honesty/meritocracy.
In the sense that it will be sarcastically posted for cheap "thanks" over and over and over and over and over again, I agree.
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Christ, let it go

He cant....its about all he has left.
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In the sense that it will be sarcastically posted for cheap "thanks" over and over and over and over and over again, I agree.
Thanks for that bit of intellectual honesty there.
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I would imagine that it's players that are on the backside of their careers. Apex - the highest point, the vertex - http://www.thefreedictionary.com/apex.

Tanguay, being 33 (34 in November), I would say, yes, he is "post-apex". But Feaster didn't define it, so this is just what I think.
I think Feaster mentioned that they would not be ACQUIRING post-apex, right? I am not sure I heard that they intend on jettisoning the ones they have currently. Maybe I misheard.
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I think Feaster mentioned that they would not be ACQUIRING post-apex, right? I am not sure I heard that they intend on jettisoning the ones they have currently. Maybe I misheard.
You're right, that was the context. The Tanguay comment I made was in response to JayP being confused as to what post-apex meant and wanted to know if it applied to someone like Tanguay.
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why does everyone assume that wanting to make the playoffs next year automatically means overpriced veterans and trading of draft picks?
can't they make the playoffs by doing this re-tool, re-build, re-whatever properly? it's not outside the realm of possibility.
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Old 04-03-2013, 02:54 PM   #220
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I watched the first half of the feaster presser on flames website so I missed a bunch as it lagged a ton, but did he say that was the only trade they made today?
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