07-04-2017, 12:08 PM
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#41
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Location: Moscow
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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
Supreme Court? According to the OP, it was Trudeau.
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Well, actually it was in all likelihood a number of senior lawyers at the Department of Justice who would have seconded the settlement, with perhaps final approval of a Deputy Minister (or some such high ranking bureaucrat) with either the DOJ or the DOD.
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07-04-2017, 12:25 PM
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#42
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Were you his lawyer? Why do you keep calling him Mr. Khadr? Odd.
In the hockey forums, do you refer to players as Mr. Monahan and Mr. Gaudreau making a great play for their employer Mr Edwards.
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07-04-2017, 12:29 PM
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#43
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Moscow
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Originally Posted by CroFlames
Were you his lawyer? Why do you keep calling him Mr. Khadr? Odd.
In the hockey forums, do you refer to players as Mr. Monahan and Mr. Gaudreau making a great play for their employer Mr Edwards.
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Just force of habit. Sorry if it's distracting.
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07-04-2017, 12:58 PM
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#44
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I meant that to sound more facetious than anything. Reading it again, it sounds like I'm being condescending. Sorry bro.
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07-04-2017, 02:29 PM
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#45
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Moscow
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CroFlames
I meant that to sound more facetious than anything. Reading it again, it sounds like I'm being condescending. Sorry bro.
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No worries.
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07-04-2017, 04:12 PM
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#46
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by rooster
Nice job Trudeau, Make a terrorist POS into a multimillionaire off the back of Canadian taxpayers. How the hell can this be protested??
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What a terrible terrible read of the situation. My god. Take your head out of the echo chamber, get a breath of fresh air.
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07-04-2017, 05:43 PM
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#47
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by rooster
Nice job Trudeau, Make a terrorist POS into a multimillionaire off the back of Canadian taxpayers. How the hell can this be protested??
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Woah lets simmer down here. Try getting all of the information first before spouting off.
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07-04-2017, 05:56 PM
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#48
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Not a casual user
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: A simple man leading a complicated life....
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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
A lot of that article is predicated on Kadr having protection under the Geneva Convention. He was an unlawful combatant.
Look, I'm glad that Kadr has seemingly changed, though he still visits that disgusting family of his.
I would expect that he won't have that money for long, the widow of the man that Kadr murdered, will probably file a lawsuit against him.
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His lawyers will get a chunk of that money.
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07-04-2017, 06:01 PM
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#49
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: east van
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I don't believe a juvenile can be sued for their criminal actions in Canada, I doubt they can touch the award.
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07-04-2017, 07:18 PM
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#50
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
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Note that is against Ahmed Khadr's estate and not towards Omar Khadr personally so it's irrelevant here. They've just initiated civil suit against Omar Khadr so that's up in the air. Also Omar Khadr is appealing his conviction in the US court system, and based on how other Guantanamo base cases have gone he has his murder conviction vacated.
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07-04-2017, 08:20 PM
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#51
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Retired
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Originally Posted by cal_guy
Note that is against Ahmed Khadr's estate and not towards Omar Khadr personally so it's irrelevant here. They've just initiated civil suit against Omar Khadr so that's up in the air. Also Omar Khadr is appealing his conviction in the US court system, and based on how other Guantanamo base cases have gone he has his murder conviction vacated.
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I don't know where you got that information. These links suggest the judgment is against Omar:
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...ticle25242269/
http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/...e-baf61b4bdb15
But also, it might not be enforceable in Canada:
http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/...1-d3123678bf95
EDIT: I guess it comes down to whether wikipedia is more accurate than the journalists.
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07-04-2017, 08:22 PM
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#52
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Retired
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Back in Guelph
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Gotta get up pretty early in the morning to convince us this is Trudeaus fault..... rooster.
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07-04-2017, 08:33 PM
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#53
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Retired
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Admittedly I am somewhat confused with this case.
Ok, I get that the Canadian government was aware of his capture and his detention in gitmo and was subject to potential torture during his imprisonment. But the Canadian government didn't carry out those acts, nor did Canadian soldiers.
Does this mean that Canada has an obligation to try to get nationals out of foreign prisons under any circumstance? Aren't there hundreds of other Canadians locked up abroad in pretty abhorred conditions for things like drug running?
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07-04-2017, 08:34 PM
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#54
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Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Seattle, WA
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This whole situation sucks. Nobody wins here, except maybe the lawyers.
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07-04-2017, 09:27 PM
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#55
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Originally Posted by Delgar
EDIT: I guess it comes down to whether wikipedia is more accurate than the journalists.
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Off topic but I wonder what Trump's answer would be if someone asked him which source he would consider more accurate.
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07-04-2017, 09:29 PM
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#56
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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"What's Wikipedia?"
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07-04-2017, 09:52 PM
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#57
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Moscow
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DoubleK
This whole situation sucks. Nobody wins here, except maybe the lawyers.
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In fact, as I understand it, both of Khadr's lawyers have provided their services pro bono and indeed have even paid disbursements such as airfare out of their own pockets. I've heard Mr. Edney speak a number of times. Very charismatic and interesting man.
https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/new...beandmail.com&
The government lawyers, on salary, probably just put in a whole bunch of extra unpaid late nights at the office.
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07-04-2017, 10:01 PM
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#58
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Moscow
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Originally Posted by Delgar
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Also worth noting that if the claim was against Omar, he was noted in default while he was in prison. So the judgment's value in terms of establishing any sort of wrongdoing or moral blameworthiness is essentially nil.
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07-04-2017, 10:48 PM
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#60
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Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Brisbane
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So we are doing "freaking" threads for Omar Khadr now?
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