Most overated player on the Flames?

[Locke]

Originally Posted by FBI

To be fair, none of us were really that upset when Wotherspoon got sent down this year, we all kind of expected it.. Now the grossmann signing on the other hand, THAT's when we all got upset (rightfully so)

Yeah, what does Grossman bring that Wotherspoon doesnt?

Does Wotherspoon's ass provide insufficient heat for the pressbox? Does he eat too much popcorn?

Can the Flames not afford to continue feeding Wotherspoon's debilitating popcorn addiction?

What is it?

[Yamer]

This thread has taught me that some posters don't understand what 'overrated' and 'on the Flames' means.

[kukkudo]

Sam Bennett

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Young_Guns

I won't mention any overrated players because that just leads to bashing but I will mention Backlund as the most UNDERRATED player on the team.

I won't forget when like 5 years back the Flames playing the Wings at the Joe and Babcock singled a then fairly young Backlund out as a solid player to look out for. He scored two goals that game I believe. And you can tell now that he's just the kind of center that the then-Wings would have had come out of their system. Strong 2-way player with smarts that can make skilled plays in the offensive zone.

[FiveSeven]

For me Bouma or Monahan.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by FiveSeven

For me Bouma or Monahan.

Okay Bouma maybe, but Monahan? What do you guys want? The guy isnt Crosby.

[djsFlames]

I don't think Monahan is overrated at all. He's a non-flashy guy that will give you 30 goals and 60+ points. Not going to blow the roof off, but he is most definitely an asset.

His smarts are probably a tad underrated. He doesn't dangle guys and still puts up those numbers. You have to know exactly where to be on the ice to do that. Some of elite skilled guys probably wish they had his smarts.

[rain_e]

Giordano for sure. Glad we have him locked up so we can watch him get worse and worse.

[wingmaker]

The most ludicrous thing about this thread is that this board is unbelievably hard on Flames players. It is a wonder most people around here cheer for them at all given how much loathing there is. The expectations seem to be either you are the best player in the world, at which point we will defend you to the death (see Iginla, J) or you are a scrub. Given this, it is impossible for anyone to be OVERrated, as in generally considered to be of higher quality than has been shown. In fact, there are only two candidates at all, by virtue that there are only two players that everyone seems to actually like: Gaudreau and Brodie. And they aren't even overrated as much as they are just simply appreciated period. Everyone else on the team is either being crapped on, traded for someone else, or is under consideration for being a bust or a miscast player playing over their head.

Maybe it's time to start liking the Flames players for a change. Might be more fun.

[Magnum PEI]

Brodie, easily.

[squiggs96]

I agree OP. The win on Tuesday was making us a little too positive and optimistic. Thanks for bringing us back down.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by rain_e

Giordano for sure. Glad we have him locked up so we can watch him get worse and worse.

Well up until now he's only gotten better (career season last year, 21 goals) so I guess we're still waiting on that whole regression thing people seem to keep talking about.

[N-E-B]

I'm a huge Monahan fan and I think it's insane to call him overrated. If this thread was made later in the season once he gets going he wouldn't be mentioned in this thread. He's a perennial 25-30 goal scorer.

I don't think any of our young guys are overrated, and I agree 100% with the posters that say Backlund is the most underrated player.

My vote for overrated usually goes to the guys that people think can step in and replace NHLers right away, so that would be guys like Wotherspoon, Kulak, Hamilton etc. but I think Kulak has been solid so I don't know if I think anyone is overrated.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

I don't think Monahan is overrated at all. He's a non-flashy guy that will give you 30 goals and 60+ points.

That is a fair assessment of him. However the media and especially fanbase are guilty of statements like "Obvious Future Captain" and "the Toews to Gaudreau's Kane". He is not those things. He is not even special defensively compared to his own peers like MacKinnon, Draisaitl, Scheifele, and Barkov yet I'm constantly reminded how "two-way" he is.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Magnum PEI

Brodie, easily.

wat.

[N-E-B]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

That is a fair assessment of him. However the media and especially fanbase are guilty of statements like "Obvious Future Captain" and "the Toews to Gaudreau's Kane". He is not those things. He is not even special defensively compared to his own peers like MacKinnon, Scheifele, and Barkov.

The Toews comparisons are silly, I agree, but I see the future captain in him for sure.

[wingmaker]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

That is a fair assessment of him. However the media and especially fanbase are guilty of statements like "Obvious Future Captain" and "the Toews to Gaudreau's Kane". He is not those things.

Well, he is an assistant captain now and is signed for six seasons after this one...so, hardly a big overreaction to say that he seems like a good bet to be a future captain or at least that he has that potential. That really is just appreciating him and his current trajectory.

And, if you can compare Gaudreau to Kane than you can absolutely compare Monahan to Toews. If it is ridiculous for one it is ridiculous for the other. Plus, the whole idea of those type of comparisons is that they are approximations. Saying "Monahan is Toews to Gaudreau's Kane" is not the same thing as saying "Monahan is as good as Toews".

Overrating would be to say that he is one of the best centres in the game, which I have never read anywhere. Or saying that he is the best centre the Flames have had since Nieuwendyk...oh wait, he probably is. I guess I am OVERrating him by not considering the amazing centres this team has had like...David Moss. Quick, better throw some brakes on this crazy Monahan hype train! We wouldn't want to actually appreciate a 21 year old centre who has already scored 30 goals in a season.

[OmegaV4]

Ferland for sure.

[Huntingwhale]

The whole ''who is the most overrated player'' talk doesn't really jive with me. The player himself isn't overrated. He is what he is. It's the fans who place them up on a pedestal and put unrealistic expectations on them that are the issue.

Monahan or Bennett aren't overrated. They are what they are. Maybe if you are one of those who expect either of them to be a bonafide franchise player, you are the one who is out of touch with reality. Not them.

Whenever someone speaks of a player being overrated, it makes it seem like its a knock on the player. If you think a player is overrated, maybe it is you who have an unrealistic expectation of them.

Once you proclaim a player as a potential franchise player (like many do with Bennett), then you have placed this expectation on him and it puts him in a position to look like a failure when he doesn't reach them. That's on you the fan. Not the player.

The only thing that is 'overrated' is the expectations some fans put on players. Those are the fans that need to be called out. Not the players.

[Manhattanboy]

I don't like the term 'overrated' either.

If the question is who is currently performing below expectations, or better yet below what we have been led to believe is their potential, then I say Sam Bennett.