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Old 07-05-2017, 12:34 PM   #121
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQDBNJ3mPa0

You can watch the whole episode (9 I think) on Bill Nye Saves the World. Just provides an interesting perspective (whether you like Nye or not). Agree with most, that the whole "gender unknown" at birth is a bit off board. Not a hill I'd die on but, hey, they got their moment in the press.

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Old 07-05-2017, 12:40 PM   #122
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQDBNJ3mPa0

You can watch the whole episode (9 I think) on Bill Nye Saves the World. Just provides an interesting perspective (whether you like Nye or not). Agree with most, that the whole "gender unknown" at birth is a bit off board. Not a hill I'd die on but, hey, they got their moment in the press.
I'm going to make news by declaring that I won't impose that my offspring lives in a physical dimension. If it chooses to live as a spirit on the spirit plane, all good. Gender and species are so yesterday.
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Old 07-05-2017, 01:13 PM   #123
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I'm going to make news by declaring that I won't impose that my offspring lives in a physical dimension. If it chooses to live as a spirit on the spirit plane, all good. Gender and species are so yesterday.
You must really like that joke to make it twice in the same thread.
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Old 07-05-2017, 09:43 PM   #124
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To me at birth either you have indoor or outdoor plumbing.

I can see later on making a change on the fly if the person feels they do not fit into one category.
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Old 07-05-2017, 10:03 PM   #125
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To me at birth either you have indoor or outdoor plumbing.

I can see later on making a change on the fly if the person feels they do not fit into one category.
That's the child's sex. There's a difference between sex and gender

Picking the baby's sex isn't an option. Males and females are born with physically different bodies and have different health concerns, anatomy etc.

The debate is about gender
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Old 07-05-2017, 10:06 PM   #126
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That's the child's sex. There's a difference between sex and gender

Picking the baby's sex isn't an option. Males and females are born with physically different bodies and have different health concerns, anatomy etc.

The debate is about gender
Isn't the child's sex what is recorded on a birth certificate?
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Old 07-06-2017, 12:41 PM   #127
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I'm not even sure it will register with that poster. Hilarious observation though.

Hypothetical situation:
It's 2050. Eugenics has advanced to the point where we can screen and remove mental and physical disabilities like down syndrome, Spina bifida, even correct mental ######ation.

First, to those saying how trans-phobic (lol) I'm being, would you view this use of eugenics as wrong? Would it be more morally correct to allow children to be born with serious illness and handicaps? Is the word itself eugenics just too fraught with historical malpractice?

So if you (hopefully) agree that it's ok to do that, let's then continue down that path a bit. Let's say that the Doctor tells you that your baby will be born male, but, they can detect in the brain that your child will identify as a female. They can change it. I won't even use the word "correct" as not to make anyone faint. Do you think it would be ok for parents to have that choice?
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Old 07-06-2017, 12:58 PM   #128
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That's the child's sex. There's a difference between sex and gender

Picking the baby's sex isn't an option. Males and females are born with physically different bodies and have different health concerns, anatomy etc.

The debate is about gender
So then why is the guy/girl in the article making a big stink about nothing? Birth certificate asks for sex, not gender. Tell the moron the difference and be done with it. Seems like a needless publicity stunt to me.
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Old 07-06-2017, 01:02 PM   #129
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So then why is the guy/girl in the article making a big stink about nothing? Birth certificate asks for sex, not gender. Tell the moron the difference and be done with it. Seems like a needless publicity stunt to me.
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Gender as a concept is new to some people. WHO has a good explanation.

http://www.who.int/gender-equity-rig...definition/en/
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Old 07-06-2017, 01:35 PM   #131
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So then why is the guy/girl in the article making a big stink about nothing? Birth certificate asks for sex, not gender. Tell the moron the difference and be done with it. Seems like a needless publicity stunt to me.
But it makes Resurrection furious so pick a side!
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