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View Poll Results: Should the Flames bring back Treliving
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Old 04-20-2017, 01:56 PM   #201
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For what it is worth, daredevil's source sounds fairly credible. He/she is not part of the Flames org., but is well connected within the upper echelons of hockey and NHL circles, and there is good reason to believe that he/she has access to this sort of information.
Sigh.

If we lose Burke and/or Treliving because that guy is still having to have final say in hockey decisions I'm done.

IMO this team is on the verge of being a real force, and we don't need King or a King puppet destroying it.
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Ha ha ha. Oh boy. I will take this with a grain of salt but if there's any truth to this it's time for King to go. I will say the timing of a Bishop trade would have been odd as that's when Elliott was on fire and the Flames are already missing their 2nd (I believe the Lazar trade was completed prior to the Bishop trade) and 3rd round picks from this year's draft. Also if King's blessing was required I have a hard time believing he wouldn't have been 100% available the entire time until completion of the deadline.
Lazar was a last second trade that got reported after the deadline wasn't it?
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Old 04-20-2017, 02:04 PM   #203
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Can we just fire Ken King all together already?

This whole arena project has been a disaster, and if he is trying to meddle in hockey operations then he needs to go.
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Lazar was a last second trade that got reported after the deadline wasn't it?
The thread for the trade was started at 12:53pm on deadline day. So, not after the deadline, but pretty darn close.
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Old 04-20-2017, 02:09 PM   #205
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If we aren't re signing Tre isn't it possible be look at Maloney ?
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Old 04-20-2017, 02:17 PM   #206
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Ken King needs to go. No doubt any more.
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Old 04-20-2017, 02:30 PM   #207
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Can we just fire Ken King all together already?

This whole arena project has been a disaster, and if he is trying to meddle in hockey operations then he needs to go.
King has always meddled in hockey operations. It's pretty clear he was the one who opposed any rebuild until Iginla was well past his prime. It was assumed Burke was brought in to put an end to the meddling.
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That trade didn't happen on deadline day...it was the Sunday before


should probably have his phone on though
Yes Feb 26 was the Bishop Trade. The story adds up but probably gets the deadline detail wrong.

That also gives plausibility to the phone not being answered due to it being Sunday.

Either way after CalgaryNEXT and watching Elliott melt down someone should be telling King to go home.
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Old 04-20-2017, 02:41 PM   #209
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Apparently Friedman said on Edmonton radio that he wouldn't be surprised if Conroy was a front runner for the job if Treliving didn't come back.

He also wondered if the Flames would give Treliving an offer he wouldn't be able to refuse or a token offer they know he won't accept.
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For what it is worth, daredevil's source sounds fairly credible. He/she is not part of the Flames org., but is well connected within the upper echelons of hockey and NHL circles, and there is good reason to believe that he/she has access to this sort of information.
I think King has been involved in hockey ops for a while. When Keenan was fired, he said it wasn't Darryl who called the shot, it came from higher up. King is the long rumoured and the obvious culprit. It can't be soon enough for the Flames to get rid of him in all his capacities.
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YES!

I for one, am anxious to see what Tree can do without the NDP sabotaging his plans.
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He also wondered if the Flames would give Treliving an offer he wouldn't be able to refuse or a token offer they know he won't accept.
Care to speculate on that last bit? i can't listen right now so I don't know the context. Seem like opposing ideas.
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I for one, am anxious to see what Tree can do without the NDP sabotaging his plans.
By NDP you mean Ken King?
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For what it is worth, daredevil's source sounds fairly credible. He/she is not part of the Flames org., but is well connected within the upper echelons of hockey and NHL circles, and there is good reason to believe that he/she has access to this sort of information.
I guess it's possible King might need to approve any trade involving retained salary.

Either way, if we lose Treliving because of King, I'm probably done for a while.

Don't blow this, Flames.
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Care to speculate on that last bit? i can't listen right now so I don't know the context. Seem like opposing ideas.
Yeah, this is an odd conjecture. It makes me think that Friedman is spitballing more than usual.
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I guess it's possible King might need to approve any trade involving retained salary.

Either way, if we lose Treliving because of King, I'm probably done for a while.

Don't blow this, Flames.
In a year where everyone (worldwide) tasked with a major decision has in fact blown it, I'm not encouraged.
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Old 04-20-2017, 02:59 PM   #217
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Would it be safe to assume that if Treliving goes, that Burke would as well?

This just makes me feel sick. Treliving is the brightest piece this organization has, and we're risking him for what?
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Apparently Friedman said on Edmonton radio that he wouldn't be surprised if Conroy was a front runner for the job if Treliving didn't come back.

He also wondered if the Flames would give Treliving an offer he wouldn't be able to refuse or a token offer they know he won't accept.
I love Conroy but man I just don't know if he's ready to be calling the shots for an NHL team. A little too much of a Joe Nieuwendyk, Craig MacTavish type hiring for my tastes.
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We've already seen what happens when Ken King tries to do things he has zero qualifications for, so hearing rumors that he's meddling on the hockey operations side of things as well is pretty disheartening.
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Would it be safe to assume that if Treliving goes, that Burke would as well?

This just makes me feel sick. Treliving is the brightest piece this organization has, and we're risking him for what?
Because ownership absolutely loves Ken King. The man deserves credit for hiring Darryl and turning the franchise around but that was well over a decade ago and the more he's been involved the worse things have got for the franchise. Heck there were even rumors he was driving Huff away from the Stampeders so it seems he's just a meddler.
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