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Old 01-30-2024, 06:04 PM   #21
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I believe the colloquialism you're looking for is "#### around and find out"
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Old 01-31-2024, 10:30 AM   #22
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A big problem in the Middle East is that peace isn't profitable. Particularly among militant and proxy groups, they rely on animosity to keep getting funding and weapons. Not only do these groups keep young and unemployed men busy and with a feeling of purpose, the leaders at the top of the pyramid make fortunes from the funding they get from the states that support them. If things get too calm, they lose money.

Saudi Arabia and other Arab countries normalizing relationships with Israel was good for those countries, but not good for groups like Hamas or Hexbollah. The Chinese facilitated peace deal in Yemen between Saudi Arabia and Iran was good for those countries, but not good for the Houthis whose financial existence depends on conflict.
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It’s been a few days since the attack on the Americans. Have to wonder when the American response will occur.
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A big problem in the Middle East is that peace isn't profitable. Particularly among militant and proxy groups, they rely on animosity to keep getting funding and weapons. Not only do these groups keep young and unemployed men busy and with a feeling of purpose, the leaders at the top of the pyramid make fortunes from the funding they get from the states that support them. If things get too calm, they lose money.



Saudi Arabia and other Arab countries normalizing relationships with Israel was good for those countries, but not good for groups like Hamas or Hexbollah. The Chinese facilitated peace deal in Yemen between Saudi Arabia and Iran was good for those countries, but not good for the Houthis whose financial existence depends on conflict.
Perhaps profit, but it's more existential for everyone involved. The "soldiers" of the Houthi can't suddenly pretend the thing they were willing to die for suddenly isn't because some other people signed an agreement. Hamas cannot sign anything because they've been selling an impossible dream for decades
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A big problem in the Middle East is that peace isn't profitable. Particularly among militant and proxy groups, they rely on animosity to keep getting funding and weapons. Not only do these groups keep young and unemployed men busy and with a feeling of purpose, the leaders at the top of the pyramid make fortunes from the funding they get from the states that support them. If things get too calm, they lose money.



Saudi Arabia and other Arab countries normalizing relationships with Israel was good for those countries, but not good for groups like Hamas or Hexbollah. The Chinese facilitated peace deal in Yemen between Saudi Arabia and Iran was good for those countries, but not good for the Houthis whose financial existence depends on conflict.
The US and Senators also love when there is war in the middle east, as it allows them to keep their war machine going. Their votes depend on it from their big private funders.
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A big problem in the Middle East is that peace isn't profitable. Particularly among militant and proxy groups, they rely on animosity to keep getting funding and weapons. Not only do these groups keep young and unemployed men busy and with a feeling of purpose, the leaders at the top of the pyramid make fortunes from the funding they get from the states that support them. If things get too calm, they lose money.

Saudi Arabia and other Arab countries normalizing relationships with Israel was good for those countries, but not good for groups like Hamas or Hexbollah. The Chinese facilitated peace deal in Yemen between Saudi Arabia and Iran was good for those countries, but not good for the Houthis whose financial existence depends on conflict.
The fact profit is more important than peace just shows truly how ####ty the world is
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Old 02-01-2024, 11:37 PM   #28
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And if people arent familiar with the Gerald Ford...



It'll mess you up.

The American's have had some defence struggles lately, and a lot of devestating failures with the Littoral and Zumwalt class destroyers, there's also concerns about the future viability of carriers due to a lack of counter to hyper sonic missiles (Though there are some interesting concepts on the design board. but their Navy is still pretty untouchable.


Along with 1 Ford class carrier with 2 more coming, they still have 10 Nimitz class carriers that still pretty much outclass any other nations carriers.



But the use of F-35's to Wasp class assault ships gives a neat jeep carrier option to cover areas that might not need a full carrier battle group.


When you look at the super carrier concepts versus other carriers, there's nothing even close in capability. The Queen Elizabeth class for the British is incredibly innovative, and probably the second best carrier design in the world, but it doesn't have the range speed or compliment.


The biggest threat is the Chinese carrier program, and they're advancing quickly, but they are probably in a lot of ways 30 years behind where the American's are in terms of crews, technology and pure striking power.



Basically after WW2 The American's started dominating in the Pacific and Atlantic, and declared the games closed.
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It’s been a few days since the attack on the Americans. Have to wonder when the American response will occur.
Today.

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It’s been a few days since the attack on the Americans. Have to wonder when the American response will occur.
You know it's going to be a years long bombardment of tactically superior punishment, if not more. They've got stockpiles of surplus munitions they need to use before their expiration dates.


The Middle East has short memories, they get their arse handed to them by the u.s every decade and the u.s is using only a pinky finger of their might.

Gulf War was the last time the U.S really flexed anything more than a knuckle. The rest has been ticky tack on leash proxy wars.

I bet the Americans are itching to let loose a bit.
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"These bombs have been around here since Korea!!"

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You know it's going to be a years long bombardment of tactically superior punishment, if not more. They've got stockpiles of surplus munitions they need to use before their expiration dates.


The Middle East has short memories, they get their arse handed to them by the u.s every decade and the u.s is using only a pinky finger of their might.

Gulf War was the last time the U.S really flexed anything more than a knuckle. The rest has been ticky tack on leash proxy wars.

I bet the Americans are itching to let loose a bit.
I wonder how much of it is them wanting to press their boots on Russia's neck too. If the reports are correct of Russia running out of weapons and diverting large portions of their economy towards producing more weapons, this would be the time to attack Russia's traditional proxies, Syria, Iran, and their respective proxies.
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US completed 86 targets and around 130 precision strike munitions used tonight in Iraq and Syria.
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Arial bombardment is so brutal to civilians. Especially these longer term campaigns that essentially dont end.
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Arial bombardment is so brutal to civilians. Especially these longer term campaigns that essentially dont end.
Yeah, I remember seeing some of those videos when they first invaded Iraq...I cant even imagine being in one of those cities...it lit up the sky.

What did they call it? "Shock and Awe?"

It was that alright.

I'm all for the US to kick some ass and put these people down...but its gotta be the right asses. Not just the average Joe who happens to live there.
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