[Trade] Devils trade Jagr to Panthers for a 2nd and conditional 3rd

[Bring_Back_Shantz]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Another nice found money trade.

Boy would it be nice to be on the positive end of some of these.

Dubnyk for a 3rd without acquisition cost, winnik for a 2nd+ no acquisition cost, Jagr for a 2nd+ no acquisition cost.

How about Norris canddiate D-Man/Captain: No acquisition cost?

[MikeN]

lol Thought he wanted a shot at another Cup. Shame I really wanted him back in the peg

[Mattman]

Tlusty
Winik
Jagr
Bergenhiem


So who's Glencross' competition now?

TSN says and a few posters agree:

Cole- LW 36. Years. Old.

Lupul- RW Speculated about but no big rumours as of yet. Anyways I don't know who would take on that contract with the injury record he has.

Stewart- RW Good, gritty player. Probably similar to Winik's return. Only real winger close to Glencross' play and production.

4 more days!

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by Hackey

2011-12: 54pts in 73 games
2012-13: 35pts in 45 games (lockout year)
2013-14: 67pts in 82 games

Stats are down this year but the guy has always been productive, even in his later years. Give him some decent line mates in Florida and he probably will produce.

Where he should help is Florida's atrocious powerplay. But outside of that I wouldn't expect much from him

[killer_carlson]

I think this serves notice to Boston that Florida intends to make a hard charge at the post season. It puts pressure on Boston to respond.

And Boston has been interested in Glencross.

Works for me.

[Buck Murdock]

glencross should get a first now.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

Disagree. In hockey terms it's a bad trade, but for a team two points out of a playoff spot that desperately needs to sell tickets, in a market that is notorious for only being interested in winners – they need to do something like this.

It's not even a case of ‘If you make the dance anything can happen.’ It's more like, ‘If we make the dance, we might actually fill up the arena for a few games and get some new season ticket sales.’

Oh yeah my bad for evaluating a trade based on value given and received.

Doesn't mean that Florida had to overpay for Jagr.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Oh yeah my bad for evaluating a trade based on value given and received.

You're trying to be sarcastic, but frankly, it IS your bad for evaluating a deadline-week rental as if it were a regular hockey trade.

Also, your bad for totally ignoring the monetary value given and received. The marginal value of adding Jagr to the Panthers, in dollars and cents, is much higher than the marginal cost of subtracting Jagr from a team whose season is already shot.

[btimbit]

Value is right for a deadline deal, I like it for both teams

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

You're trying to be sarcastic, but frankly, it IS your bad for evaluating a deadline-week rental as if it were a regular hockey trade.

Also, your bad for totally ignoring the monetary value given and received. The marginal value of adding Jagr to the Panthers, in dollars and cents, is much higher than the marginal cost of subtracting Jagr from a team whose season is already shot.

By that logic the Devils could have traded him for a 7th and it wouldn't have been a bad trade for them.

I believe this was a bad trade for Florida. I'm not speaking for anyone else. Deal with it.

[troutman]

If he didn't go to the KHL, only Gretzky would have more points.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

By that logic the Devils could have traded him for a 7th and it wouldn't have been a bad trade for them.

This claim falls into the category ‘not even wrong’. First you claim that Florida paid far too much for Jagr. Now you're beating a straw man about a hypothetical situation in which they would have paid far too little, and claiming that it follows from something I said. It does not. I never named any specific value that would have been the break-even point for New Jersey on this deal. In fact, the Devils would have been chumps to trade Jagr for a 7th-rounder, because clearly they could get more for him. The whole question is how much Jagr is worth to Florida.

I believe this was a bad trade for Florida. I'm not speaking for anyone else. Deal with it.

I disagree, and I said so. Deal with it.

[Enoch Root]

I would not want to see the Flames pick him up - especially at that price - but I think it was a good move for the Panthers.

1) they need to make a push and get into the playoffs
2) they need more offense
3) they could use a 'big name'
4) it sends the right message to the current players

Would love to see Florida get in

[drewtastic]

Originally Posted by Locke

Haha! Another jersey for the traveling Jagr's to buy. At this rate they're going to have to start holding auditions.

What jersey does Jagr wear when he himself joins that crew?


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[Tinordi]

Originally Posted by troutman

If he didn't go to the KHL, only Gretzky would have more points.

Greatest ever European player? Only other is Hasek and Lidstrom and it's difficult to compare them.

[FlameZilla]

Originally Posted by drewtastic

What jersey does Jagr wear when he himself joins that crew?


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Gotta be the original Pittsburgh #68. 11 seasons, 2 cups, 5 scoring titles, Mullet.

[FlamesAddiction]

I would have made this trade for the Flames if the 2nd rounder could be a 2016.

In context of the 4-5 year re-build we started a couple of years ago, a 2016 2nd would be less important. A 2015 pick would have a greater chance of being relevant by the time the re-build is complete.

[DoubleK]

What is the condition? Make the playoffs? Resign?

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by DoubleK

What is the condition? Make the playoffs? Resign?

Panthers have two 3rds (theirs and Minny's). Devils get the pick that ends up being later. That is the condition.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

Greatest ever European player? Only other is Hasek and Lidstrom and it's difficult to compare them.

Jagr is the best.

I would say it's more difficult to win consecutive scoring titles than consecutive norris trophies. While Lidstrom likely has more norris trophies if his career doesn't align with Pronger, Steven, MacInnis, Niedermayer, Bourque etc, Jagr won scoring titles competing against Sakic, Yzerman, Gretzky, Lemieux.

For me, it's Jagr.