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Old 08-17-2017, 09:45 PM   #721
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Tina Fey introduces the world to "Sheetcaking"... http://www.thedailybeast.com/tina-fe...are-always-bad
What's interesting is her advocating no one to show up to oppose the kkk. I think the larger (and hopefully peaceful) counter demonstration is much more effective.
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Old 08-17-2017, 09:48 PM   #722
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Good article that the "antifa is just as bad" crowd should read.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...utm_source=fbb
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Old 08-17-2017, 10:59 PM   #723
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So the neo-nazis little protest about the removal of a Confederate statue seems to have led to cities all over the country removing their Confederate statues. Well that backfired spectacularly, didn't it?
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For decades, far-right extremists have marched through Wunsiedel in Bavaria every year, to the despair of those who live there. This year, the organisers of Rechts gegen Rechts (Right against Right) took a different approach.

Neo-Nazis are attracted to the town because Hitler’s deputy Rudolf Hess was once buried there. Though his remains were exhumed in 2011 and his grave was destroyed, far-right extremists still flock to the town year after year. Residents have attempted protests and numerous legal complaints to no avail – Wunsiedel is still treated as a place of pilgrimage for neo-Nazis all over Europe.

Without the marchers’ knowledge, local residents and businesses sponsored the 250 participants of the march on 15 November in what was dubbed Germany’s “most involuntary walkathon”. For every metre they walked, €10 went to a programme called EXIT Deutschland, which helps people escape extremist groups.

Campaigners hung humorous posters to make the march look more like a sporting event, with slogans such as “If only the Führer knew!” and “Mein Mampf” (my munch) next to a table laden with bananas. They even hung a sign at the end, thanking the marchers for their “donations”.


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his remains were exhumed in 2011 and his grave was destroyed
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Old 08-18-2017, 06:16 AM   #726
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his remains were exhumed in 2011 and his grave was destroyed
But the culture and the history???
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Old 08-18-2017, 09:18 AM   #727
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I think we tend to focus too much on the comedy that the late night set use to challenge our thought processes, and write off much of what these people say as a result of them being "jesters" meant to entertain us. But I think people forget that another role of the "jester" is to shine a light on the bad behaviors of the royal court, and keep them honest. Sometimes the jester makes a poignant soliloquy that says a lot more than we thought them capable. Here is one of those moments.

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I think we tend to focus too much on the comedy that the late night set use to challenge our thought processes, and write off much of what these people say as a result of them being "jesters" meant to entertain us. But I think people forget that another role of the "jester" is to shine a light on the bad behaviors of the royal court, and keep them honest. Sometimes the jester makes a poignant soliloquy that says a lot more than we thought them capable. Here is one of those moments.
Interesting. He's not wrong except I'm not sure about the end.. "the american voter will" I don't think anyone has any idea what the American voter will do. You're stats above show that 62% of adults opposed removing the monuments. That's a much higher percentage of people than are Republicans, Trump voters, or Fox viewers. I suspect a lot of it could be explained by white people who vote Democratic but feel uncomfortable "accommodating" or "making concessions to" black people and/or leftist activists.
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Interesting. He's not wrong except I'm not sure about the end.. "the american voter will" I don't think anyone has any idea what the American voter will do. You're stats above show that 62% of adults opposed removing the monuments. That's a much higher percentage of people than are Republicans, Trump voters, or Fox viewers. I suspect a lot of it could be explained by white people who vote Democratic but feel uncomfortable "accommodating" or "making concessions to" black people and/or leftist activists.
I also think people who don't live in the south generally don't know much about their symbolism one way or the other. They're "just statues" to them, and people tend to be against taking down statues for reasons they don't understand.
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Good article that the "antifa is just as bad" crowd should read.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...utm_source=fbb
This is a real warm and fuzzy take on antifa, but neglects to mention a few things.

Namely, not one mention or photo of the sheer amount of communist flags ect that they parade around. Hard to claim they have no political affiliation when they are screaming it from the rooftops. It's easy to say they are but simple anarchists when you fail to address this point.

They have been declared a terrorist organization by the state of New Jersey.

We need anitifa about as much as we need nazis. But let's not pretend they are sweet little defenders of democracy. They just prefer a different brand of totalitarianism.
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This is a real warm and fuzzy take on antifa, but neglects to mention a few things.

Namely, not one mention or photo of the sheer amount of communist flags ect that they parade around. Hard to claim they have no political affiliation when they are screaming it from the rooftops. It's easy to say they are but simple anarchists when you fail to address this point.

They have been declared a terrorist organization by the state of New Jersey.

We need anitifa about as much as we need nazis. But let's not pretend they are sweet little defenders of democracy. They just prefer a different brand of totalitarianism.
I dunno, I'm going to go ahead and say the types of people who believe in ethnic cleansing and white supremacy are at least marginally less-needed than the people who believe the world needs to be cleansed of those types of people.

Not to say antifa is great, but I think everybody but the worst types of people would side with them over nazis, if forced to make a choice.
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Communist or nazi...

I'll take the gulags for $400 Alex.
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Old 08-18-2017, 06:07 PM   #733
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Antifa or Alt Right

I'll take dragging murders, federal buildings blown up, wack job church killings and prison gangs for $600 Alex.
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Not to say antifa is great, but I think everybody but the worst types of people would side with them over nazis, if forced to make a choice.
"They're not quite as bad as actual Nazis" is not exactly a ringing endorsement.
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"They're not quite as bad as actual Nazis" is not exactly a ringing endorsement.
Saying dog poop smells worse than cat poop isn't meant to be an endorsement for smelling cat poop.
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thank god we don't have to choose and can just dislike them both
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This is a real warm and fuzzy take on antifa, but neglects to mention a few things.

Namely, not one mention or photo of the sheer amount of communist flags ect that they parade around. Hard to claim they have no political affiliation when they are screaming it from the rooftops. It's easy to say they are but simple anarchists when you fail to address this point.

They have been declared a terrorist organization by the state of New Jersey.

We need anitifa about as much as we need nazis. But let's not pretend they are sweet little defenders of democracy. They just prefer a different brand of totalitarianism.
I get that communists regimes have killed a lot of people but communism as an ideology doesn't advocate for ethnic cleansing. Nazism does.
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