08-01-2017, 04:11 PM
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#2281
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I believe in the Jays.
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Originally Posted by CaramonLS
Surprised they couldn't move Estrada when they managed to move Liriano.
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I'm not...
A: Estrada has not had a good season,
B: Estrada does not have premium velocity
C: Estrada is not a lefty like Liriano
... Estrada doesn't profile as a traditional reliever and that was what teams wanted in Liriano. A hard throwing lefty they can bring out of the pen. A soft tossing righty in the midst of a bad season isn't going to command much.
Jays are simply wagering that he might be worth more before the waiver trade deadline and if not then they probably have a decent shot to extend him and see if they can get a bounceback year.
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08-01-2017, 04:41 PM
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#2282
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Toronto
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Sigh. This team. This freaking disappointing team. 
Hope they win, but can't expect wins anymore. Sorry to sound like a broken record but it's the only mindset I can take that will help maintain my sanity while still watching them, and I do still want to watch them play.
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08-01-2017, 04:52 PM
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#2283
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Commie Referee
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Small town, B.C.
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Yeah, it's tough to watch, but at least it's summer and I have cold beer. I take solace in that.
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08-01-2017, 06:17 PM
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#2284
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Waterloo, Ontario
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So watch just for the game.. Disconnect from the team. Makes life more interesting and far less stressful.
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08-01-2017, 07:34 PM
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#2285
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Commie Referee
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Small town, B.C.
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Smoak bomb! Makes it 4-2 Jays!
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08-01-2017, 08:00 PM
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#2286
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Toronto
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Attaboy Russell!
Should've scored on JD's double though.
Last edited by Karl; 08-01-2017 at 08:03 PM.
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08-01-2017, 08:21 PM
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#2287
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: wearing raccoons for boots
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Wasnt sure if Morales was going to make it. Not if he would be safe. Just, make it home. He was chugging.
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08-01-2017, 09:06 PM
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#2288
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: The Pas, MB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CaramonLS
Surprised they couldn't move Estrada when they managed to move Liriano. The Jay must have wanted a more for him than teams were willing to pay.
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Atkins' exact words were they aren't in the business of making other teams better without making themselves better so he must have felt other teams were trying to rip them off.
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08-02-2017, 08:43 AM
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#2289
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Deep South
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Quote:
Originally Posted by puffnstuff
Wasnt sure if Morales was going to make it. Not if he would be safe. Just, make it home. He was chugging.
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That play was pretty funny. Morales didn't go a foot further than he needed to go. Pretty much slid to the edge of home plate and stopped dead.
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08-02-2017, 11:05 AM
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#2290
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Parallex
Jays are simply wagering that he might be worth more before the waiver trade deadline and if not then they probably have a decent shot to extend him and see if they can get a bounceback year.
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I don't understand the waiver deadline. Why would teams trade for a player who has passed through waivers? Why don't they just claim them off of waivers instead?
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08-02-2017, 11:14 AM
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#2291
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Apartment 5A
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RatherDashing
I don't understand the waiver deadline. Why would teams trade for a player who has passed through waivers? Why don't they just claim them off of waivers instead?
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http://m.mlb.com/news/article/140073...-trade-system/
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• When a player is on waivers, other teams can submit a claim. If more than one team does, those in the same league as that player's team get first priority, starting with the club with the worst record on the day of the claim. Then, the priority moves to the other league, starting with the worst record. For example, if a National League team puts a player on waivers, the NL team with the worst record gets the first shot at him, and the last-place American League club would be right behind the top NL club.
• Once a player is claimed, his team faces three options. It can pull the player back and keep him, negotiate a trade with the claiming team or let the player go. In the last scenario, the claiming team takes full responsibility for the player's remaining salary. If the two sides decide to work out a trade, they have two days to do so.
• If a player goes unclaimed for two days, he "passes through" waivers. His team then can trade him to any other team for the rest of the season, unless he has a no-trade clause, a limited no-trade provision or 10/5 rights (10 years in the Majors, five consecutive years with his current team).
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08-02-2017, 01:45 PM
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#2292
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Calgary
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Pearce! 2-0 Jays, top of the 6th
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08-02-2017, 01:55 PM
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#2293
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Franchise Player
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Well i just sat down and turned on the game 2-0 Jays.
Happ has pitched 5 scoreless so I'm sure its gonna go to #### now.
Edit - right on cue a lead off single
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08-02-2017, 02:03 PM
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#2294
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RatherDashing
I don't understand the waiver deadline. Why would teams trade for a player who has passed through waivers? Why don't they just claim them off of waivers instead?
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The biggest reason, as Kel's post indicates, is that MLB waivers are revokable. You put a claim in, the team just pulls the player back and then you negotiate a trade.
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08-02-2017, 02:05 PM
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#2295
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Franchise Player
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2-1 now with 2 out runners on 1st and 2nd
Yeah....
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08-02-2017, 02:34 PM
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#2296
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Deep South
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Oh man...Pillar almost thrown out at 1st after taking too wide of a turn on a single. Got overturned on review, but that was probably way too close of a call for that situation.
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08-02-2017, 02:37 PM
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#2297
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Resolute 14
The biggest reason, as Kel's post indicates, is that MLB waivers are revokable. You put a claim in, the team just pulls the player back and then you negotiate a trade.
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Do teams who are lower down in the standings ever use their waiver priority to block trades? Or is there an unwritten rule not to do that?
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08-02-2017, 02:38 PM
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#2298
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Franchise Player
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Nice clutch single by Martin.
3-1
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08-02-2017, 02:41 PM
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#2299
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Jays opening it up here. Pillar comes in to score
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08-02-2017, 02:41 PM
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#2300
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Franchise Player
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Nice. Wild pitch pillar scores from 3rd and martin goes 1st to 3rd. 4-1
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