07-05-2017, 06:26 PM
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something else haha
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Goalies do seem off but like Grant said, I rather take the human element out which can cause more issues.
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07-05-2017, 06:29 PM
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#22
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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So I traded a 79 goalie for a 78 goalie and got a 1st-rounder too? I like!
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07-05-2017, 06:33 PM
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#23
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Swayze11
Goalies do seem off but like Grant said, I rather take the human element out which can cause more issues.
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That's really it - as you start to go through and try to fix perceived issues - where do you stop. The more you do it the more you move away from an objective ratings package grounded in stats.
And OVR are not a great indicator of which player will do better - it is a weighted calcluation of the individual ratings. So you could have two players - one with slightly better key attributes (say scoring, passinng and puck control) and another with slightly worst attributes but he's huge so he has a way better ST rating that gives him a higher OVR.
What player is more valuable?
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07-05-2017, 06:58 PM
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#24
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Is this team going to be... good? I don't really have much of a grasp for it
Radim Vrbata (74) - Frans Nielsen (73) - Jonathan Marchessault (72)
Michael Grabner (71) - Derick Brassard (72) - Thomas Vanek (71)
Leo Komarov (71) - Conor Sheary (71) - Teuvo Teravainen (69)
Bryan Rust (69) - Jordan Martinook (68) - Lee Stempniak (69)
Derek Ryan (67)
Morgan Rielly (71) - Adam Larsson (69)
Josh Manson (68) - Paul Martin (67)
Thomas Hickey (66) - Kevan Miller (66)
Chris Wideman (63) - Paul LaDue (63)
Chad Ruhwedel (63)
Craig Anderson (78)
Chad Johnson (71)
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07-05-2017, 07:07 PM
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#25
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Uncle Chester
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No
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07-05-2017, 09:05 PM
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#26
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Franchise Player
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Good forward group and goaltending. Weak blueline.
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07-06-2017, 06:54 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Waterloo, Ontario
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yeah goalie ranks are bad...how Bobrovsky can be rated as best goalie and Lundqvist 19th? Im all for keeping human element out but Price is better than 5th.
Forwards and dmen arent too bad.
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07-06-2017, 07:25 AM
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#28
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Franchise Player
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Bobrovsky just won the Vezina should he not be #1?
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07-06-2017, 10:36 AM
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#29
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Waterloo, Ontario
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well if you are a hockey fan...no. Id take Price on the Flames any day of the week before Bobs.
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07-06-2017, 11:05 AM
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#30
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Calgary
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Do we have any position data for the players yet? as i recall, the last ratings package had that in it as well.
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07-06-2017, 11:07 AM
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#31
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheese
well if you are a hockey fan...no. Id take Price on the Flames any day of the week before Bobs.
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Sure. But that's different. And exactly why using a statistical based package is key - to remove the personal preference.
Would I want Price over Bob? Yes. Because in the long-run I think he's the better goalie.
But Bob was better last year and the rating reflects that.
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07-06-2017, 11:08 AM
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#32
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TurdFerguson
Do we have any position data for the players yet? as i recall, the last ratings package had that in it as well.
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Yeah the way we will handle that is by uploading a new roster file so people can review in the sim and send in their position additions. That's a later step though.
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07-06-2017, 06:17 PM
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#35
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Hamilton, Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wild GM
Again, please do not cherry pick individual players or individual attributes to criticize the package. There will be some off ones for sure, but overall they look pretty good.
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It is what it is, not complaining but Varlamov rated 80th overall is not good enough to be a NHL goaieis a tough pill to swallow.
Don't get me wrong but as I was ezpected bad because of a poor season, just dissapointed my year is already over. Too bad he wasn't a RFA or i would be doing the happy dance
I'm cool with it, just had to let everyone laugh at it. Jack Campbell and his 2 career NHL game is offiacallymy best goalie, yikes
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07-06-2017, 06:20 PM
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#36
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Hamilton, Ontario
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please don't read my post as if i have a issue with his rating
I'll have to work FA and such and treat it like an injury. All part of being a GM
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07-06-2017, 06:32 PM
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#37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hanna Sniper
It is what it is, not complaining but Varlamov rated 80th overall is not good enough to be a NHL goaieis a tough pill to swallow.
Don't get me wrong but as I was ezpected bad because of a poor season, just dissapointed my year is already over. Too bad he wasn't a RFA or i would be doing the happy dance
I'm cool with it, just had to let everyone laugh at it. Jack Campbell and his 2 career NHL game is offiacallymy best goalie, yikes
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Neuvirth and Pavelec got killed for me. To the dustbin with them.
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07-06-2017, 06:34 PM
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#38
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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So Kostopoulos is rated higher than Varlamov? Curious...
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07-06-2017, 07:25 PM
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#39
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Chesterfield Inlet, NU
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Geez guys give it up. you are gms building a team from chemistry not ratings. Yes a better goalie is necessary but if you don't have it build up your defence. Just give it up. It's done and it's not gonna change
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07-06-2017, 07:39 PM
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#40
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: N/A
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1 too many beers Russ...
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