Harassing Emails

[sclitheroe]

Why can't g/f stand on her own two feet here and fight her own battles - why are you even involved.

[VladtheImpaler]

What's the big picture here? Are you bringing a Labour Relations Board complaint? Well, print all the emails and make them part of your submission. Are you planning to sue? Same thing. Keep in mind though, there isn't much money in this, unless your g/f has been with this company for years.

[3 Justin 3]

No idea why you haven't gone to the Police yet. Seems to me that you're going to get yourself into even more trouble. The Police may be useless sometimes, but at least give them a shot before doing all this illegal activity to find out who it is.

[Superfraggle]

Originally Posted by sclitheroe

Why can't g/f stand on her own two feet here and fight her own battles - why are you even involved.

Sounds like it's because he witnessed a transaction they are claiming didn't happen. If he's not involved, it's her word against theirs.

[Nage Waza]

I would send those emails back to everyone at her old work place.

[Thor]

Originally Posted by pylon

Unrelated to the topic. You dun goofed guy died back in November.

wtf really, what happened, old age or internet rage?

[Lt.Spears]

Originally Posted by Nage Waza

I would send those emails back to everyone at her old work place.

No.

The smartest thing would be to DOCUMENT EVERYTHING and then notify the police of what is going on.

a) The company if found at fault will be dinged with harassment.
b) If your girlfriend is filing a case against the company they are likely to lose given the evidence you have provided and saved.

Remember, in a court case EVIDENCE is what matters most.

Even if its a "he said, She said" kind of action you are likely to win if it can be proven that the company was harassing you about keeping quiet.

[kirant]

Originally Posted by Thor

wtf really, what happened, old age or internet rage?

I thought he meant the meme died down then.

Originally Posted by Rathji

For example, they know a Larry Smith whose email address is larrysmith@shaw.ca. You make a shaw email 1arrysmith@shaw.ca and send them an email that they might expect given the relationship, like "Did you see the game last night?" or "Do you want to hit up a movie this weekend?"

I'd probably advise against this. This relies on the other person being oblivious enough to the e-mail address that they mistake letters or alternative spellings of friends for the original. If they catch it, you expose the fact that someone is digging for information from them.

In vague terms, what is the other guy's e-mail like? If it seems pretty generic, it is also possible that they invented an account purely for the purpose of sending these e-mails.

[CISSP]

Originally Posted by Thor

wtf really, what happened, old age or internet rage?

According to questionable sources. A heart attack.

Search Gene Leonhardt Dead on Google

[HPLovecraft]

Originally Posted by sclitheroe

Why can't g/f stand on her own two feet here and fight her own battles - why are you even involved.

You do understand the concept of the boyfriend, girlfriend relationship, yes? If my girlfriend were let go from work unlawfully and was receiving threatening e-mails, you'd better believe I'd be involved.

[MrSector9]

either go to police/lawyer or reply with pictures of your poop.

(since people else already gave you good advice)

[CISSP]

Originally Posted by sclitheroe

Why can't g/f stand on her own two feet here and fight her own battles - why are you even involved.

Haven't been in many relationships have you?


For OP:
The best advice is what has been said by many already. Go to the police, contact a lawyer and document everything.

[BBQorMILDEW]

Ok, I'm going to tell you exactly what's going on here...

In total, there are around 7 messages that this person has sent to my inbox. In all six, I replied back. See, at first I was really sure who it was, then after a couple emails, I was completely unsure.

I decided to mess around with whoever it was.

They said that if I left my girlfriend and completely shut her out of my life, that they would get me a job in Media... Since I'm in school for Radio, it would be a big thing for me.

I was never going to believe them, so I sort of played along with them. I told them that I wasn't talking to her and that we needed to meet to discuss compensation. Then at the last possible minute, I chickened out and decided to call the whole thing off. To be honest, I was a little scared to see who i'd be meeting..

I told them that I wasn't going to respond to any more messages. They wrote back that they didn't believe me and were going to keep an eye out on me..

I really want to know who is doing this without going to the cops. We haven't gone ahead with any wrongful dismissal because my GF can't afford a lawyer at the moment.. Once she can, then she will be taking these people for what she's owed.. Now if it was just a simple job, with simple pay, we wouldn't bother. But she was an operations manager at a very successful Salon & Spa and was terminated unfairly.

They tried unsuccessfully to get her to quit for months, because they would have to pay her severance. She had been there for almost 9 years, so we're not talking about millions here... But it's the principal of the matter.

This company fired, humiliated and almost destroyed someones reputation to save a few bucks. (They have accused her of theft but aren't pressing charges) The whole transaction is caught on video and audio tape. I clearly had a conversation about her putting the 14 dollar item on her account at work. Someone went into the system and deleted the item, therefore giving them cause to fire her without severance.

Yes, I know, pretty far fetched right?

If you're a lawyer and you're reading this, send me a PM, I'd like to know our chances

So, that's why I want to find out exactly who is writing these emails.. Because I want to confront them myself... Then sue there ass in court.

[CISSP]

Originally Posted by BBQorMILDEW

Ok, I'm going to tell you exactly what's going on here...

In total, there are around 7 messages that this person has sent to my inbox. In all six, I replied back. See, at first I was really sure who it was, then after a couple emails, I was completely unsure.

I decided to mess around with whoever it was.

They said that if I left my girlfriend and completely shut her out of my life, that they would get me a job in Media... Since I'm in school for Radio, it would be a big thing for me.

I was never going to believe them, so I sort of played along with them. I told them that I wasn't talking to her and that we needed to meet to discuss compensation. Then at the last possible minute, I chickened out and decided to call the whole thing off. To be honest, I was a little scared to see who i'd be meeting..

I told them that I wasn't going to respond to any more messages. They wrote back that they didn't believe me and were going to keep an eye out on me..

I really want to know who is doing this without going to the cops. We haven't gone ahead with any wrongful dismissal because my GF can't afford a lawyer at the moment.. Once she can, then she will be taking these people for what she's owed.. Now if it was just a simple job, with simple pay, we wouldn't bother. But she was an operations manager at a very successful Salon & Spa and was terminated unfairly.

They tried unsuccessfully to get her to quit for months, because they would have to pay her severance. She had been there for almost 9 years, so we're not talking about millions here... But it's the principal of the matter.

This company fired, humiliated and almost destroyed someones reputation to save a few bucks. (They have accused her of theft but aren't pressing charges) The whole transaction is caught on video and audio tape. I clearly had a conversation about her putting the 14 dollar item on her account at work. Someone went into the system and deleted the item, therefore giving them cause to fire her without severance.

Yes, I know, pretty far fetched right?

If you're a lawyer and you're reading this, send me a PM, I'd like to know our chances

So, that's why I want to find out exactly who is writing these emails.. Because I want to confront them myself... Then sue there ass in court.

You shouldn't be afraid of going to the cops. There really is no legal way of getting their names yourself short of asking the people emailing you to be especially forthcoming.

Technically, there are ways to get access to their addresses, but these methods are far from legal. You really are best off going to the cops about this harassment. If the people you believe to be harassing you are willing to go as far as to attempt a larger cover up and bribe individuals, then the issues at hand could quickly tip into the dangerous area.

If you are 100% certain that the facts in this situation come up in your favour (GF is unjustly terminated, Company is covering it up, You have clear cut evidence) then you shouldn't be wary of going to cops. You should also check up on some local pro-bono legal clinics. I'm sure they'll steer you right to the police as well.

The type of harassment you are describing, and the type of people you seem to be dealing with seem rather unsavory, and the last thing you want to do is be dealing with them by yourself through unofficial channels.

[krazycanuck]

It's probably your girlfriend testing you, seeing if you'd sell her out for a media job.

[sclitheroe]

Originally Posted by HPLovecraft

You do understand the concept of the boyfriend, girlfriend relationship, yes? If my girlfriend were let go from work unlawfully and was receiving threatening e-mails, you'd better believe I'd be involved.

Read the OP's further details - he's the one responding to these emails and making a bad situation worse, and now contemplating below-board means of finding the perpetrator "for the principle of the matter". If the GF has a case for wrongful dismissal, it's lawyer time. If the emails are genuinely threatening, its police time.

But corresponding and trying to track down these people via email isn't helping anyone. If the GF needs justice done, she's the one that needs to go an initiate with the lawer, it was her job. Especially if the OP was a witness - he's completely screwing up his ability to be a credible testimony if required. That's what I meant about her fighting her own battles.

[anyonebutedmonton]

http://www.sla.ucalgary.ca/

[HPLovecraft]

Originally Posted by sclitheroe

Read the OP's further details - he's the one responding to these emails and making a bad situation worse, and now contemplating below-board means of finding the perpetrator "for the principle of the matter". If the GF has a case for wrongful dismissal, it's lawyer time. If the emails are genuinely threatening, its police time.

But corresponding and trying to track down these people via email isn't helping anyone. If the GF needs justice done, she's the one that needs to go an initiate with the lawer, it was her job. Especially if the OP was a witness - he's completely screwing up his ability to be a credible testimony if required. That's what I meant about her fighting her own battles.

Personally, I would respond cryptically and lead the person on at the other end until I collected a real good incriminating mountain of e-mails, THEN go to the authorities. Better to have lots of threatening e-mails than only one, I say!

Originally Posted by HPLovecraft

Personally, I would respond cryptically and lead the person on at the other end until I collected a real good incriminating mountain of e-mails, THEN go to the authorities. Better to have lots of threatening e-mails than only one, I say!

And what exactly is the criminal code offence that could be investigated here? I can't see one.

[HPLovecraft]

Originally Posted by Bent Wookie

And what exactly is the criminal code offence that could be investigated here? I can't see one.

Yeah, well, I hadn't read his "further" post before putting that up. I had assumed threatening actually meant something vicious.