^^^ Good article. MI definitely have read more about the civil war in the past week than I ever had before. I'm still pro monument graveyard with interpretation with some depending on the person left standing intact.
Interesting piece about a reporter for Sputnik that was the White House reporter. He confirms that Sputnik is a propaganda outlet, and was even directed to push the Seth Rich story that the White House tried to push. Sure suggests that the relationship between the WH and Sputnik was more than the typical one.
The US likes to celebrate Thanksgiving Day and then tucks all that "genocide of the Native Americans" under the rug. They like to celebrate Lincoln freeing the slaves, but pretend Americans weren't the ones doing the slave buying/selling/trading. There are awful parts of American history that you don't learn unless you research well beyond what you're taught in school. We refuse to face our flaws as a country, and so we can't ever move past them.
Christopher Columbus (Day) is another one.
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Interesting piece about a reporter for Sputnik that was the White House reporter. He confirms that Sputnik is a propaganda outlet, and was even directed to push the Seth Rich story that the White House tried to push. Sure suggests that the relationship between the WH and Sputnik was more than the typical one.
Nothing to see here. Move along. There is nothing to the Russia story, and its all just a fabrication of the lamestream media. Actually, it was Hillary Clinton who was colluding with the Russians, which is why they hacked the DNC and released all of her emails. It was a language barrier thing and the Rooskies made a mistake that benefited her opponent. And the Steele Dossier is all a fabrication as well. All of those financial links between Trump and the Russians are just clerical errors. Trump has no business dealings with Russians. None. Hillary Clinton has business dealings with Russians. If we could only find those 33,000 emails we would be able to prove it. See, that's why the Russians hacked the DNC. They wanted to find those 33,000 emails because they proved the link between Hillary Clinton and Russian oligarchs, so they hacked the DNC and deleted them! There is no link between Russia and Trump. There is no pee tape. The only pee tape that exists has Hillary Clinton on it. It's all Hillary, Hillary, Hillary. Nothing to see here.
So, if I'm correctly understanding that meme tweet above, Obama is the sun, a source of light and giver of life while Trump is a lifeless moon that is devoid of atmosphere and full of craters.
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So, if I'm correctly understanding that meme tweet above, Obama is the sun, a source of light and giver of life while Trump is a lifeless moon that is devoid of atmosphere and full of craters.
He's also significantly smaller than the sun and is in tune with womens menstrual cycles.
"I hit em with everything, I got the white supremacists, the neo nazis, I got them all in there. KKK, we have KKK."
He's listing of bullet points of requirements he needed to meet, and then he's mad at the press because they aren't giving him the credit he feels he deserves because he it all the bullet points.
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The US likes to celebrate Thanksgiving Day and then tucks all that "genocide of the Native Americans" under the rug. They like to celebrate Lincoln freeing the slaves, but pretend Americans weren't the ones doing the slave buying/selling/trading. There are awful parts of American history that you don't learn unless you research well beyond what you're taught in school. We refuse to face our flaws as a country, and so we can't ever move past them.
When did you to go school - the 50s? The notion that education and public attitudes on native Americans and slavery haven't changed is ridiculous. Are you really suggesting that American school textbooks written in the last 40 years do not acknowledge that Americans bought and sold slaves?
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When did you to go school - the 50s? The notion that education and public attitudes on native Americans and slavery haven't changed is ridiculous. Are you really suggesting that American school textbooks written in the last 40 years do not acknowledge that Americans bought and sold slaves?
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“Stereotypically, Mexicans were viewed as lazy compared to European or American workers,” the text reads.
Cortez and the group of historians presented a 54-page report to the Texas board of education and called the book a "political Trojan horse" pushed by conservative education officials, including the textbook's publisher, Cynthia Dunbar. Dunbar, a former member of the Texas board of education, is a Trump supporter and a well-known far-right activist.
At a Trump rally in June, Dunbar spoke on behalf of the GOP nominee, telling a Richmond, Va. crowd that “We want our country back! It has been stolen right from under us!”
Cynthia Dunbar, a former Texas board of education member and vocal Trump supporter, published the offensive textbook.
Dunbar told the Dallas Morning News that she has “no agenda other than trying to make sure that book presents the best material for the students.” She said the board of education is only aware of one error that needs fixing: a passage indicating that English is the official language of the United States.
The Mexican-American Heritage textbook, written by Jaime Riddle and Valarie Angle, has been the source of controversy ever since the Texas Observer cited passages from the preliminary version in May of this year. The problematic passages included one suggesting that Chicanos, a synonym for Mexican Americans, “adopted a revolutionary narrative that opposed Western civilization and wanted to destroy society.”
Naomi Reed agrees. A social anthropologist and post-doctoral fellow at the University of Texas at Austin, Reed has studied the nexus of race and education, specifically textbooks, for more than a decade. She doesn’t hesitate to draw a straight line between the negative stereotypes and distortions found in some texts and the racist beliefs that lead to racial violence. It’s a point she made in a recent article provocatively titled, “Are Texas Textbooks Making Cops More Trigger Happy?”
Reed focuses her analysis on one popular AP U.S. history textbook, The American Pageant by David Kennedy, which she says is replete with the kind of revisionist history that creates a “white redemption narrative.” Potentially powerful discussions of slavery, Jim Crow, and the Civil Rights Movement, Reed says, are diluted by passages focusing on the negative impact on white people.
“Something bad happens to a Black person and the story is retold or recast as something bad happening to a White person,” she explains. “You see it in textbooks and you see it in the media today in the coverage of police shootings. Somehow the narrative becomes less about black oppression and more about white victimization. It’s everywhere.”
In 2015, a Houston-area parent was appalled to find a caption in her son’s McGraw Hill World Geography textbook that called slaves “workers.” She took to social media and soon the publisher was furiously backtracking, insisting it was only an “editing error,” and promising to deliver a corrected copy. But even after this incident and the countless embarrassments that came before it, the Texas SBOE voted again in late 2015 to stand by the citizen panel charged with reviewing textbooks.
Reed says that until the board implements a proper academic review of classroom materials and other necessary reforms, too many students in Texas – and potentially across the country – will be exposed to a distorted and exclusionary version of history.
From Providence to Pasadena, history teaching in our public schools is in a sorry state. A study by the Rhode Island Historical Society shows that despite the need for for students to know more about the past, history education is getting short shrift in the classrooms.
There are many reasons for this, says Luther Spoehr, who teaches the history of American education at Brown University and serves as a consultant on history teaching across the country . Spoehr says history and civics have taken a back seat in recent years to the relentless push for more science and math..
It’s hard to blame teachers for this. History and civics must be secondary to subjects like math and English that are tested ad nauseam. Our state education department expects students to study American history but doesn’t check their knowledge on standardized tests.
This has led to an attitude of `what’s tested is what’s taught’ according to Spoehr. For better and worse, this is human nature. In the classroom, and on the job, it is natural in a competitive society to master what you know will get you ahead, forsaking stuff that isn’t likely to get you promoted.
The other element that is making history teaching difficult is the nation’s wide political divisions.
The Civil War is a florid example. It’s often hard to find a consensus on great events by professional historians. But most trained in academic history agree that slavery was the major cause of the war. A majority of the public seems to have caught on. A recent poll by the McClatchy news organization and Marist College found that 55 percent of Americans think schools should teach that slavery was the `main reason’ for this war.
Yet, in Texas, state academic standards list slavery third among the causes of the war, after states’ rights and sectionalism. Slavery, says a Republican member of the Texas Board of Education, was merely a side issue in the war.
(Indeed, the Marist poll found that southerners, white people and those more than 60 years old are less supportive than others when it comes to teaching slavery as the prime cause of the war. And Democrats were more likely than Republicans and independents to say slavery should be taught as a primary cause.)
Spoehr says that historical illiteracy is rampant even on his Ivy League campus. He says he is astounded by the number of undergraduates who don’t know what the New Deal was about or who was president during its heyday in the 1930s.
When did you to go school - the 50s? The notion that education and public attitudes on native Americans and slavery haven't changed is ridiculous. Are you really suggesting that American school textbooks written in the last 40 years do not acknowledge that Americans bought and sold slaves?
Of course there is mention of slavery, but exactly like Americans gloss over the genocide of Natives and that Columbus was a monster, we also gloss over the issue of slavery. American history education goes: Revolutionary War, Founding Fathers, oh hey slavery happened and it was bad but Lincoln! And then we discuss WWI and WWII (overstating our moral superiority in both), and we also gloss over the whole Hiroshima thing for the icing on the cake.
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Five million public school students in Texas will begin using new social studies textbooks this fall based on state academic standards that barely address racial segregation. The state’s guidelines for teaching American history also do not mention the Ku Klux Klan or Jim Crow laws.
And when it comes to the Civil War, children are supposed to learn that the conflict was caused by “sectionalism, states’ rights and slavery” — written deliberately in that order to telegraph slavery’s secondary role in driving the conflict, according to some members of the state board of education.
Coby Burren, 15, a freshman at a suburban high school south of here, was reading the textbook in his geography class last week when a map of the United States caught his attention. On Page 126, a caption in a section about immigration referred to Africans brought to American plantations between the 1500s and 1800s as “workers” rather than slaves.
So if you desperately need the semantics, yes, schools teach that slavery existed, but there are widely varying levels of how that history is treated depending on a student's state, district, textbook, teacher.
The point still stands that we gloss over what a stain slavery is on our history as a nation.
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And shockingly the guy he retweeted is what you'd expect him to be
Spoiler!
Waiting for this to be picked up by mainstream. Pretty big if you ask me. Although, Trump seems to develop a "pretty big" story almost daily which should be enough to end his internal party support and, yet, the march goes on....
The US has failed in a major way to address its history compared to other countries.
I don't think that's fair at all. Here's a simple example:
Where are all the slaves in fiction set in pre-abolition Europe, (except for the parts that are set in ancient Roman era or before)? Nobody has slaves. Maybe in some stories the locals are treated poorly, but the word slavery isn't mentioned. There are essentially never any foreign slaves, even though the word 'slave' comes from the word 'slav', because that's just how common it was to enslave slavs at one point in European history.
Where are all the English movies about slave trade? Where are the African movies dealing with the fact that most of the slaves were gathered and sold by other Africans? If anything, I would say the Americans are doing the most to confront their history with slavery.
There's also a ton of other stuff countries don't like to deal with. Here's an example from Finland: Did you know the Germans (likely) got the idea for building camps to hold "undesirables" from post civil war Finland? Yeah neither do most Finns. It's an extremely glossed over part of our history, even though about 1/3rd of our civil wars total casualties were results of those "POW" camps. The conditions in those camps were often horrid. The women (or sometimes girls in their young teens, put in those camps for things like wearing pants, because that was a "red" thing) were often systematically raped, food was scarce and arbitrary executions common. Finns also had some of the worst POW camps in WW2.
I find it alarming that Trump spends so much time tweeting rather than, I don't know, actually being a president doing presidential stuff - especially with a crisis in North Korea that has the potential of war with a wing nut. Actually, two wing nuts both with their fingers on buttons.
I find it alarming that Trump spends so much time tweeting rather than, I don't know, actually being a president doing presidential stuff - especially with a crisis in North Korea that has the potential of war with a wing nut. Actually, two wing nuts both with their fingers on buttons.
Maybe there's a little bit of solace in the remote possibility that there are some people that are sort of competent dealing with those things while the president tweets from the s***ter.
