Hopefully this all doesn't disappear quickly and get washed out by the hyperspeed news cycle because unless this helps some seats turn blue in 2018 it doesn't mean much.
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Hopefully this all doesn't disappear quickly and get washed out by the hyperspeed news cycle because unless this helps some seats turn blue in 2018 it doesn't mean much.
True. The "nice" thing is that this has given the media and democrat a different significant thing to go after and the Russia story has been pushed to the sidelines a bit. I imagine that will come back into the forefront again in a hurry.
But yes things need to turn blue and it worries me when only 55% of americans disapprove how he handled the supremacists this past week. A stunning 76% or republicans support him in this! Now that shows how deeply ingrained rah rah team politics is and/or how little people pay attention.
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True. The "nice" thing is that this has given the media and democrat a different significant thing to go after and the Russia story has been pushed to the sidelines a bit. I imagine that will come back into the forefront again in a hurry.
But yes things need to turn blue and it worries me when only 55% of americans disapprove how he handled the supremacists this past week. A stunning 76% or republicans support him in this! Now that shows how deeply ingrained rah rah team politics is and/or how little people pay attention.
It also shows that "White America" and the "right" of white people to be held and treated above minorities is more engrained and important in the United States than a lot of Americans try to brush it off as.
The amount of people who cheer it and promote it loudly and publicly is minuscule compared to the millions upon millions who quietly believe it in their hearts and minds.
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Hopefully this all doesn't disappear quickly and get washed out by the hyperspeed news cycle because unless this helps some seats turn blue in 2018 it doesn't mean much.
Everything manages to...
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Admit it: you've already forgotten that not even 3 weeks ago, Trump urged police to crack suspects' heads on hoods of squad cars.
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Hopefully this all doesn't disappear quickly and get washed out by the hyperspeed news cycle because unless this helps some seats turn blue in 2018 it doesn't mean much.
headline on CNN right now,
And that's a wrap on Infrastructure Week.
He's also burying his agenda, with his morondacity (yes, I made that up).
The American Red Cross, The Salvation Army and Susan G. Komen foundation all said Friday they're canceling events at Trump's Palm Beach property Mar-a-Lago. That comes after three organizations made similar announcements on Thursday.
The cancellations follow the spectacular implosion of Trump's business councils this week over the president's insistence that counter-protesters shared the blame for violence at a white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia.
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"The American Red Cross has decided we cannot host our annual fundraising event at Mar-a-Lago, as it has increasingly become a source of controversy and pain for many of our volunteers, employees and supporters," the organization said in a statement.
The Red Cross said it "provides assistance without discrimination to all people in need, regardless of nationality, race, religious beliefs, or political opinions, and we must be clear and unequivocal in our defense of that principle."
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One more philanthropic event could be on its way out. The president of Leaders in Furthering Education on Friday urged the board of her charity to abandon Mar-a-Lago for the organization's annual Lady in Red Gala, slated for December 2.
"The hatred, vitriol and anti-semitic and racist views being spewed by neo-Nazis and white supremacists are repugnant and repulsive -- and they are antithetical to everything that this country, and I personally stand for," LIFE President Lois Pope said in a statement. "And anyone who would demonstrate even a modicum of support for them by insisting that there are 'good people' among them is not deserving of my personal patronage or that of my foundations."
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A local discussion on the fact that there's still no US ambassador in Finland lead to me pondering, does Trump even have friends?
One of the weird stories buried under all the other chaos is that Trump still hasn't named almost any new ambassadors after he fired Obamas people. This leaves all of Western Europe (yes, including places like Germany, France, Italy, Spain, UK) without a US ambassador, plus of course a lot of other interesting countries (India, Australia, Canada, Saudi-Arabia, South Korea... China only got theirs in May). Heck, places like OECD and NATO don't currently have an appointed US ambassador.
It's not purely coincidental that Obamas people were mostly in the nice, peaceful western countries, because those are the typical trophy positions a president hands out to his supporters, friends and allies. That made me think.
Why are Trumps supporters, allies and friends not asking for those trophy jobs? I can understand that he would just forget about those things, or just not care, but surely if he had people around him who expected to get those seats after the election, or friends who would just like them, they'd go and ask him?
I mean, being the ambassador of a place like Belgium or Portugal or Sweden is a pretty sweet gig. Peaceful, generally uneventful jobs, good pay, good opportunity to build connections in the local business world. If you've got ambition then places like Germany or France are great places to build business contacts. If you really want a total trophy job, you could ask for something like San Marino. Unlike jobs in the White House, those ambassador gigs don't even come with a similar burden of being seen as a "supporter". I doubt many people in the US could name the previous US ambassador to, say, Netherlands or Bahamas.
Or is the White House really so incompetent now that they just can't get the normal "I scratch your back" part done?
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A local discussion on the fact that there's still no US ambassador in Finland lead to me pondering, does Trump even have friends?
One of the weird stories buried under all the other chaos is that Trump still hasn't named almost any new ambassadors after he fired Obamas people. This leaves all of Western Europe (yes, including places like Germany, France, Italy, Spain, UK) without a US ambassador, plus of course a lot of other interesting countries (India, Australia, Canada, Saudi-Arabia, South Korea... China only got theirs in May). Heck, places like OECD and NATO don't currently have an appointed US ambassador.
It's not purely coincidental that Obamas people were mostly in the nice, peaceful western countries, because those are the typical trophy positions a president hands out to his supporters, friends and allies. That made me think.
Why are Trumps supporters, allies and friends asking for those trophy jobs? I can understand that he would just forget about these things or just not care, but surely if he had people who expected to get those seats, or people who just would like to get them, they'd go and ask him?
I mean, being the ambassador of a place like Belgium or Portugal or Sweden is a pretty sweet gig. Peaceful, generally uneventful jobs, good pay, good opportunity to build connections in the local business world. If you've got ambition then places like Germany or France are great places to build business contacts. If you really want a total trophy job, you could ask for something like San Marino. Unlike jobs in the White House, those ambassador gigs don't even come with a similar burden of being seen as a "supporter". I doubt many people in the US could name the previous US ambassador to, say, Netherlands or Bahamas.
Or is the White House really so incompetent now that they just can't get the normal "I scratch your back" part done?
This is a White House that didn't realise it had to hire White House staff, so utterly incompetent the Obama administration had to hold their hand through the transition and explain to them, like a parent to a toddler, that they had to actually hire every single person that worked in the white house short of the secret service personal.
My money is always going to be on gross incompetance
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strangely enough, Newt Gingrich had an article on Fox in regards to how Trump was way more isolated than he realizes, which is true, and on Fox, which is why I say strangely enough.
But anyways, yes, it's a mass bailing on this President in progress at the moment. The more that do it, the easier it will be for others too.
It also shows that "White America" and the "right" of white people to be held and treated above minorities is more engrained and important in the United States than a lot of Americans try to brush it off as.
The amount of people who cheer it and promote it loudly and publicly is minuscule compared to the millions upon millions who quietly believe it in their hearts and minds.
Absolutely. I said as much earlier in the thread when it was being made to seem like this belief set belongs to a small number of people. The very vocal that marched are small number. Much larger are the ones with confederate flag bumper stickers, or flags themselves on vehicles, tatoos, flags in garages...the publicly quiet (or passive aggressive) and much larger still are the ones who indeed hold that belief very quietly in hearts and minds.
It's a large segment of the population that believes they are better than others because they are the correct color and religion. And I bet you almost anything that the large majority in all three of those categories consider themselves evangelical Christians.
