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Old 02-18-2017, 08:58 AM   #21
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Well that's very rare and generally shouldn't be required. Surprised it was even asked for.
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Old 02-18-2017, 09:00 AM   #22
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I blame JD! Defend your deal JonDuke.
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Old 02-18-2017, 09:00 AM   #23
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Well that's very rare and generally shouldn't be required. Surprised it was even asked for.
It was originally going to be $2 million, but was bumped up to $3 million when I mandated getting Caggiula and a 3rd instead of Brad Morrison and a 5th back.
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Old 02-18-2017, 09:01 AM   #24
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I dont know in what possible way you could feel Manson is better for you, in any way, then Lindholm moving forward. Maybe Manson and a blue chip and a decent pick.

I don't mean to pile on but this is really confusing to me.
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Old 02-18-2017, 09:02 AM   #25
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I dont know in what possible way you could feel Manson is better for you, in any way, then Lindholm moving forward. Maybe Manson and a blue chip and a decent pick.

I don't mean to pile on but this is really confusing to me.
Don't worry, I have a plan.
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Old 02-18-2017, 09:05 AM   #26
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It was originally going to be $2 million, but was bumped up to $3 million when I mandated getting Caggiula and a 3rd instead of Brad Morrison and a 5th back.
That was the original deal?
Cripes. That is awful. Please start asking other GMs for advice.
And our veteran gms shouldn't be screwing new ones like this. The deal is so far away from being even I don't know how it was even originally proposed
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Old 02-18-2017, 09:07 AM   #27
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Don't worry, I have a plan.
Everyone has a plan. Doesn't mean they're all good ones. Interested to see how you pull this out. Hope you get the last laugh but I'm skeptical.
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Old 02-18-2017, 09:10 AM   #28
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I blame JD! Defend your deal JonDuke.
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It was originally going to be $2 million, but was bumped up to $3 million when I mandated getting Caggiula and a 3rd instead of Brad Morrison and a 5th back.
Scorpion just answered it for you. I never sought cap. It was offered in the very first counter. No way I'm passing up on that one. And yeah, I knew it was a great deal for me and took it before anyone else did. Didn't set out to "screw" him, but would anyone else say no to that when it was offered to ya?
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Old 02-18-2017, 09:15 AM   #29
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Who made the first offer?
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Old 02-18-2017, 09:17 AM   #30
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He did: Nugent-Hopkins for Manson, straight-up. It was the first one I received for RNH
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Old 02-18-2017, 09:18 AM   #31
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Who made the first offer?
I did. This is the first back and forth:

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What kinds D are ya looking for? Any interest in something like Josh Manson for Nuge?

Manson is 24, 70ov, 1 x $.75
Playing lots of minutes with Lindholm in Anaheim.
I don't want any of the .60 cap difference either, so you save there too for right now.
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Old 02-18-2017, 09:29 AM   #32
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Dumba would have made a little more sense. I don't get this deal at all with Manson in there.
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Yeah if I was Philly I would have jumped at the Dumba deal. Not sure how it didn't get done right there. At least then NYI would have received something of value
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Old 02-18-2017, 09:57 AM   #34
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yup bad deal but Ive made some really stupid ones as well over the years.
Looking at his roster its actually not too bad and more than that it sure is nice to see activity, it breeds more activity which Ive seen over the last month or so.
Yup he gets hosed, but none of us can say we haven't been taken to the cleaners at least once, maybe more.
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I was about to trade you anisimov for Nuge, I hope you would've taken that over Manson.
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Old 02-18-2017, 05:20 PM   #36
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Good Lord, even I think this is a bad deal
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Good Lord, even I think this is a bad deal
Eh, you think everything I do is bad
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Old 02-18-2017, 06:43 PM   #38
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To Dallas:

Tyler Johnson

To New York:

Sami Vatanen
2018 1st

Better?
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I think this is a slight win for the islanders but I'm ok with that.
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Old 02-18-2017, 06:57 PM   #40
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Yeah that's not bad at all.
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