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Old 02-14-2017, 01:12 PM   #21
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However if the collapse comes you have to wonder wich of the three factions takes power. Intelligence, the military or a very strong Chinese favored faction.

But if I'm a bullet manufacturer sales could be way up in the coming years.
I'm banking on Chinese favored faction. China still wants a buffer between American dominated SK vs. them. They also don't want the extreme rhetoric and saber rattling of the Kims either. If Kim gets toppled I'd suspect it will be with Chinese backing.
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Not that I see it happening, but absorbing 25 million N. Koreans, wouldn't be all that big of a deal for China and its 1.4ish billion people. China has relocated people on mass of similar numbers in the past. It wouldn't be any different than the peasant urbanization projects they have ongoing. China also has multiple ghost cities that need to be filled with workers willing to work for peanuts. Being a poor Chinese urban peasant would be a huge upgrade from starving North Korean at this point.
Why absorb when eventually they will all just die, one way or another!
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Sounds like they arrested a woman at the airport carrying Vietnamese travel documents.
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I don't think that Un is anywhere near as smart as his father, but he's far more spoiled then his father, and he's more concerned with maintaining his wealth and power then anything else and because of that he's impulsive and not very strategic.
Isn't his sister a lot more calculating? Bannon to his Trump if you will?
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I'm banking on Chinese favored faction. China still wants a buffer between American dominated SK vs. them. They also don't want the extreme rhetoric and saber rattling of the Kims either. If Kim gets toppled I'd suspect it will be with Chinese backing.
This has been news in China for years now. He was living in Macau the past decade being sheltered and backed by the Chinese. China needed him as their puppet for when they eventually take out Kim Jong Un.

Beijing is not happy!
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Check out the picture of the assassin and her shirt. haha
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...ng-unsbrother/

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Check out the picture of the assassin and her shirt. lol
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Isn't his sister a lot more calculating? Bannon to his Trump if you will?
He has two daughters, Kim Sul-song and Kim Yo-Jong

Yo-?Jong is a climber in the government, she was recently appointed as the vice director of the propaganda department. So she's responsible for basically making her brother a god figure.

By all accounts she's well educated and very smart and ruthless.



Kim Sul-song

Is also in the propaganda department however, she also holds a Lt Col rank in their security forces and acted as her father's head of personal security.

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This has been news in China for years now. He was living in Macau the past decade being sheltered and backed by the Chinese. China needed him as their puppet for when they eventually take out Kim Jong Un.

Beijing is not happy!
This is some serious Game of Thrones stuff. The military and the Chinese government backing rivals, many of whom are relatives of Kim Jong Un. Meanwhile, Kim Jong Un is aggressively taking out those rivals.
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I had no idea NK had a "Propaganda & Agitation" Department. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/pe...-10412840.html
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I had no idea NK had a "Propaganda & Agitation" Department. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/pe...-10412840.html
All communist governments do (did). So did the Nazi government btw (Goebbels).
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I always assumed it would have an ironic name like the Ministry of Truth.
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Or Fox News.

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Interesting background on this.

http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/the...-bi-1792409339

Apparently Kim Jong-nam was the favoured son for leadership, but blew that on an attempted trip to Tokyo Disneyland. Quite the sacrifice!
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Interesting background on this.

http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/the...-bi-1792409339

Apparently Kim Jong-nam was the favoured son for leadership, but blew that on an attempted trip to Tokyo Disneyland. Quite the sacrifice!
The other son must be pooping his pants right now, the remaining brother Kim Jong-Chul was an early favorite to succeed his father. But then the father decided that his son was too much like a little girl.

So he went with the fatter one instead.
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I wonder if Kim Jung Il felt like he was settling when he married Kim Ok?
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Meanwhile Il-Sung was in the happiest marriage ever
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Meanwhile Il-Sung was in the happiest marriage ever
Vs. Jung-Il's mediocre marriage to Kim OK
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this whole thing is descending into bugs bunny levels of wackiness.

the woman in the picture claims Indonesian citizen. She another woman and her boy friend have been arrested and they trying to confirm that they are Indonesian.The boy friend claims to be malaysian.

From what I'm hearing is that the lady in the picture claims that four men asked her to play a prank on their friend by rubbing a chemical in his face.


Jong-Nam's autopsy was completed even though NK officials protested it.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/kim-jon...ests-1.3985536
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this whole thing is descending into bugs bunny levels of wackiness.

the woman in the picture claims Indonesian citizen. She another woman and her boy friend have been arrested and they trying to confirm that they are Indonesian.The boy friend claims to be malaysian.

From what I'm hearing is that the lady in the picture claims that four men asked her to play a prank on their friend by rubbing a chemical in his face.


Jong-Nam's autopsy was completed even though NK officials protested it.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/kim-jon...ests-1.3985536
The method leaves me scratching my head a little bit. If I was to assassinate someone with poison spray and a cloth I would make sure I was gowned and gloved and masked so I didn't breath in or get any on me. Seems an extremely sloppy/dangerous method and perhaps lends credence to the prank theory.
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