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Old 02-25-2017, 04:26 PM   #221
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Updated snakes!

Power Play
19.6%, 14th in the league
Total: 41/209


Penalty Kill
80.4%, 18th in the league
Total: 185/230


Combined
100%, 17th in the league
Washington is 1st with a combined 106.6% (21.6%/85.0%).
Edmonton is 16th with a combined 100.3% (21.1%/79.2%).
Colorado is 30th with a combined 91.4% (13.5%/78.0%).
There are 18 teams with 100% or over.
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#Flames using Ferland instead of Brouwer with Monahan, Gaudreau, Versteeg and Brodie on PP1 at practice.



From reddit. This seems a little odd to me because the PP has been clicking again lately. One guy speculated that they might be trying to take Brouwer out of important situations in preparation for his eventual exposure, but I don't see why they would do that now. Besides, his value will need to be heavily inflated for Vegas to even consider him. I do like that the team actually seems interested in developing Ferland as a scorer.
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Old 03-08-2017, 12:38 PM   #224
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#Flames using Ferland instead of Brouwer with Monahan, Gaudreau, Versteeg and Brodie on PP1 at practice.



From reddit. This seems a little odd to me because the PP has been clicking again lately. One guy speculated that they might be trying to take Brouwer out of important situations in preparation for his eventual exposure, but I don't see why they would do that now. Besides, his value will need to be heavily inflated for Vegas to even consider him. I do like that the team actually seems interested in developing Ferland as a scorer.
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The primary reason to switch Ferland in for Brouwer is so that the lines don't get screwed up after a PP.

As long as Ferland can do the job (and it is definitely worth a shot to see), then it makes way more sense for the lineup.

No need to make up crazy stuff to explain it.
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Could also be because he has earned it.
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Could also be because he has earned it.
And he is scoring more goals than Brouwer.. Doesn't he already have 2 PP goals with like 0 PP icetime? I am definitely in favor of this move.
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That's a no brainer. Why was TB on the first unit to begin with? Seems like he hasn't scored in months and he's getting every opportunity. Ferland is getting it done 5 on 5, certainly deserved.
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If Ferland is going to be used on the PP, I'd like to see him as the trigger man where Monahan is situated right now as I think his shot is just as good or better, but he's not as good of a playmaker and I'd like to see Monahan placed at the side of the net where he can either pass the puck to Ferland for a one timer or to drive it to the net himself or even to find Johnny sneaking in from the flanks.


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If Ferland is going to be used on the PP, I'd like to see him as the trigger man where Monahan is situated right now as I think his shot is just as good or better

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You can certainly disagree with me, but don't discount my point that Ferland is not as good of a playmaker as Monahan. Ferland by default should then be used as a shooter regardless of whether his shot is better or not. For the record I definitely think Ferland's shot is better than Monahan's, Ferland can snipe it literally from anywhere. We've seen many examples in the last couple weeks. I don't think Monahan has the same type of velocity behind his.
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I remember Brouwer being the lone forward on the 5on3. Maybe they're trying to shift his utilization to be on the PK? Backlund, Frolik, Brouwer, Stajan, Bouma?
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You can certainly disagree with me, but don't discount my point that Ferland is not as good of a playmaker as Monahan. Ferland by default should then be used as a shooter regardless of whether his shot is better or not. For the record I definitely think Ferland's shot is better than Monahan's, Ferland can snipe it literally from anywhere. We've seen many examples in the last couple weeks. I don't think Monahan has the same type of velocity behind his.
I do disagree with you. I think in that spot on the PP, Monahan isn't only one of the best trigger-men on the team, but up there with the best in the league.

The space and timing he's able to get the puck away with is just about unparalleled. Ferland has a nice shot in his own right, but it's nowhere near Monahan's when considering the space, accuracy and quickness with which Mony's able to get it away. It's not close.

I don't think that's a change we'll see, regardless of your take on their respective play-making abilities.
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Ferland's shot is certainly harder but Monahan has a natural ability of finding the back of the net. Monahan should continue to be the trigger man. Ferland needs to make space on the PP, cycle, make nifty passes, and snipe rebounds.
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I do disagree with you. I think in that spot on the PP, Monahan isn't only one of the best trigger-men on the team, but up there with the best in the league.

The space and timing he's able to get the puck away with is just about unparalleled. Ferland has a nice shot in his own right, but it's nowhere near Monahan's when considering the space, accuracy and quickness with which Mony's able to get it away. It's not close.

I don't think that's a change we'll see, regardless of your take on their respective play-making abilities.
Monahan has 6 PP goals this season. No where close to the best in the league in terms of execution. Versteeg has the same amount of PP goals as Monahan. I like Monahan up there, but he's been getting a lot of chances this season hasn't executed on enough for my liking. I think Ferland should get a chance there to see what he can do. I'm just saying, Monahan is more than just a shot, he has great vision and can make terrific passes and has the ability to take the puck hard to the net. Using him down low opens up more options then using Ferland or Brouwer who had very little success on the PP.

The first unit PP has become very predictable and it's because they lack options. Without a better down low presence you don't gain the opposition's respect because they know there's no threat. If anyone remembers the dominant PP that Team North America used that's exactly the system I'm advocating for.
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Ferland's shot is certainly harder but Monahan has a natural ability of finding the back of the net. Monahan should continue to be the trigger man. Ferland needs to make space on the PP, cycle, make nifty passes, and snipe rebounds.
How much cycling does the first unit PP really do? Not that much. What they really need to do is utilize the full skillset that each player is capable of. Monahan as the trigger guy is not utilizing all his strengths whereas for Ferland, offensively, he's more specialized and should be used for his shot. The first unit PP has become very stagnant and it's because it has become very predictable. Changing out Ferland for Brouwer from Chiasson still doesn't change the fundamental problem with that PP unit.
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Ferland in the slot = Ferland not digging along the boards and behind the net.
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Ferland in the slot = Ferland not digging along the boards and behind the net.
Exactly. The down low guy is also the guy fighting Dmen for loose pucks. Ferland should be first man in for that.

IMO, Tkachuk should be the low man on the 1st PP. However, if they want to keep the lines together and use Ferland on the 1st unit and Tkachuk on the 2nd unit, that is totally fine.
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Ferland in the slot = Ferland not digging along the boards and behind the net.


While I agree, Ferland has shown that he's able to do the hard work along the boards and then go to the scoring areas as well and that shot is undeniable from the slot.

Look here as well, little bit different but he did the hardwork, takes one step and the shot is just so hard, accurate and fast all at once - fast forward to 35 seconds:



I think the thought of having Ferland in the slot on the PP isn't all that bad, if anything have him digging if we don't have possession, once in control shift him into the slot and have Monahan open at the backdoor.
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Ferland in the slot = Ferland not digging along the boards and behind the net.
Monahan can't dig along the boards? Didn't Hartley once compare Monahan's stick strength to that of a crowbar? Monahan can battle for pucks and has the vision and passing ability to find a cutting Gaudreau as well.
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Monahan has 6 PP goals this season. No where close to the best in the league in terms of execution. Versteeg has the same amount of PP goals as Monahan. I like Monahan up there, but he's been getting a lot of chances this season hasn't executed on enough for my liking. I think Ferland should get a chance there to see what he can do. I'm just saying, Monahan is more than just a shot, he has great vision and can make terrific passes and has the ability to take the puck hard to the net. Using him down low opens up more options then using Ferland or Brouwer who had very little success on the PP.

The first unit PP has become very predictable and it's because they lack options. Without a better down low presence you don't gain the opposition's respect because they know there's no threat. If anyone remembers the dominant PP that Team North America used that's exactly the system I'm advocating for.
Monahan has had a disappointing first half of the season, as have several top young players on the team. His number of power play goals is in no way indicative of the difference between his world class release and Ferlands'... which is what I was talking about. You said Ferland has the better shot, and that's what I was speaking to.

With regard to the idea overall, I still think Monahan's better situated in the middle both because of his position and shot, and that (as has been mentioned a few times now) Ferland's strong point is digging the puck out and protecting it along the side wall.

I was first and foremost disagreeing with Ferland having a better shot than Monahan, and then the idea of switching them second.
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