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Old 06-11-2012, 12:51 PM   #21
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lol. Said the pot to the kettle.
Are you the Captain's spokesman?
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Old 06-11-2012, 01:06 PM   #22
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Wow Captain. You've gotten lazy and partisan. I'm disappointed.

This is an important issue and all you can come up with is a shot at Kyoto? There's much more at stake.

I guess you're fine with the rest of the Bill and would support the legislation if the Liberals had drafted it?

I really don't have a lot of problems with the omnibus bill, My post showed my gratitude of getting the Kyoto stuff out of the national dialogue officially.

If the Liberal's had put the same bill in place, I wouldn't have many problems with it, however my gut tells me that they wouldn't put the same bill in place.
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Old 06-11-2012, 02:43 PM   #23
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The size of the bill is pretty silly but all of it would be passed anyway. The idea that Harper is acting like a dictator is pretty silly though. They are acting within the existing rules and precedent. Parliament still has the power, unfortunately for some peoples favorite party don't have as many votes as they like.

Everything is/has been open for debate and the debate is available to anyone who wants to read Hansard or who wants to visit the house.
Who else has tabled a 420-page budget?
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Old 06-11-2012, 02:50 PM   #24
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Who else has tabled a 420-page budget?
http://www2.macleans.ca/2012/05/04/a...entation-acts/

Nobody else it seems. Massive budget bills seem to be a mark of Harper.
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Old 06-11-2012, 02:54 PM   #25
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How can it be a 420 page bill and not include a provision for marijuana legalization. They missed their chance at irony!
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Old 06-11-2012, 03:46 PM   #26
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How can it be a 420 page bill and not include a provision for marijuana legalization. They missed their chance at irony!
At 420 pages that could be in there somewhere.
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Old 06-11-2012, 03:48 PM   #27
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How can it be a 420 page bill and not include a provision for marijuana legalization. They missed their chance at irony!
THAT is good!! Great in fact. I laughed so hard here at the office that people started looking at me thinking I'd gone nuts.
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Old 06-11-2012, 04:46 PM   #28
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Bottom line is this. The Conservations are lumping major pieces of legislation and policy change into the Budget Implementation Act as a means to avoid actual debate and the spending of political capital. This is quasi-democratic and a total departure from their previous positions when in opposition. The scale of policy change should make any Canadian blush. This is a circumvention of the parliamentary system and should be held to account.
Yep.

They pretty much lost my vote because of that. The 'crime' portion of it is turning out to just be one of the problems I have with it.

Lots of stuff I agree with, lots more that I don't...and most of it won't ever be talked about.
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Old 06-12-2012, 11:34 AM   #29
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Wow, Azure voting liberal in the next election.

Never thought I'd see the day.
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