I'll probably get jumped on this because its obvious, but one count includes 9/11; the other doesn't.
That doesn't make sense either. But it's tough to know what people are citing as terror attacks and what aren't since it is such a nebulous thing.
Example, are we only counting Islamic terrorist attacks, or other groups? Does Boko Haram count or only attacks on the west? Who is defining this anyway?
Yeah, they are going to have to narrow down the causes of injuries and from what types of firearms.
Airsoft, BB guns, paint markers ect are not classified as firearms.
"guns shouldn’t be in homes with children present, Saunders said, and if they are, they should be stored safely, locked away and separated from ammunition."
Of course they should be stored safely away. The firearms act dictates that they need to be, failure to do so is a criminal charge. They call for stricter laws but fail to outline any, and from reading the article I wonder how familiar they are with C-66 to begin with.
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It's a scare piece with a misleading title (encompasses more that just gun violence). Their stats include things such as BB guns, airsoft and paintball and take people up to age 24 into account.
The study's lead author even admits there is no context given to their stats and claims that "it is the next thing to do". Makes you wonder why this needed to come out now, without context, instead of including context into this study.
such as?
as far as I can tell it was false news, much like the few sources you reference.
anyways, please provide some proof of his ISIS links.
Sigh. False news like CNN? Come on man. This wasn't like gang members running around the streets of Detroit. Do you honestly think this wasn't a terror attack??? How about you provide proof it wasn't.
That doesn't make sense either. But it's tough to know what people are citing as terror attacks and what aren't since it is such a nebulous thing.
Example, are we only counting Islamic terrorist attacks, or other groups? Does Boko Haram count or only attacks on the west? Who is defining this anyway?
The attached link from START clearly indicates how the number came to be.
More broadly, 3,066 Americans have been killed in terrorist attacks from 9/11/2001 through 12/31/2014, including perpetrators and excluding deaths in Afghanistan and Iraq. 2,961 of these deaths occurred on American soil. 2,902 of these deaths occurred during the attacks on September 11, 2001.
He pledged allegiance to ISIS in a phone call to authorities and that makes him a member of ISIS?
He was gay and couldn't accept that due to the religious BS against gays he had been brought up with. Combine that with, he was bipolar and had easy access to guns, I would say this had more to do with crazy person with gun, than ISIS member commits terrorist attack.
Obama said it was an act of terror, but if that was a terrorist attack, so was Charleston. Homegrown terrorists.
He pledged allegiance to ISIS in a phone call to authorities and that makes him a member of ISIS?
He was gay and couldn't accept that due to the religious BS against gays he had been brought up with. Combine that with, he was bipolar and had easy access to guns, I would say this had more to do with crazy person with gun, than ISIS member commits terrorist attack.
Obama said it was an act of terror, but if that was a terrorist attack, so was Charleston. Homegrown terrorists.
Well wouldn't those count as terror attacks though? That's why I'm skeptical that only 158 people have died from Terror attacks like Pepsifree quoted. What constitutes a terror attack and are we being honest with that number?
He may not be an official Isis member but he himself pledged allegiance to their cause. For that reason I'd think it should be counted as a terror attack given the very unofficial and nebulous way Isis defines itself.
Well wouldn't those count as terror attacks though? That's why I'm skeptical that only 158 people have died from Terror attacks like Pepsifree quoted. What constitutes a terror attack and are we being honest with that number?
He may not be an official Isis member but he himself pledged allegiance to their cause. For that reason I'd think it should be counted as a terror attack given the very unofficial and nebulous way Isis defines itself.
I agree with everything you've said, and would probably count more attacks as terrorism than the average person because I am admittedly cynical, skeptical, and pessimistic about Islam.
Well it isn't really clear. However even if it was, why shouldn't the number include domestic terrorism though? The person is a domestic terrorist but seems to have believed in radical Islamic ideology. Why wouldn't that attack count in the numbers? The attack appears to be inspired by it.
For the gun deaths, should we randomly exclude a subset of gun deaths then? Say like any gun deaths related to hunting or accidental?
Well it isn't really clear. However even if it was, why shouldn't the number include domestic terrorism though? The person is a domestic terrorist but seems to have believed in radical Islamic ideology. Why wouldn't that attack count in the numbers? The attack appears to be inspired by it.
ask the NRAPublicans.
But I think mental issues are more prevalent than radical Islamic ideology.
Was Robert Lewis Dear jr. a radical American xtian terrorist and would that count?
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Well it isn't really clear. However even if it was, why shouldn't the number include domestic terrorism though? The person is a domestic terrorist but seems to have believed in radical Islamic ideology. Why wouldn't that attack count in the numbers? The attack appears to be inspired by it.
For the gun deaths, should we randomly exclude a subset of gun deaths then? Say like any gun deaths related to hunting or accidental?
I'll clarify my sources when I'm home, but the guns deaths number didn't not include suicide or any accidental deaths (including hunting).
The comparison remains. Terrorism claims "tens" of American lives each year on average, while gun homicide of Americans claims thousands. The difference of severity between each issue is extreme.
Right-wing Americans don't care about Americans being murdered. They just don't like it when a Muslim does it.
One of the kids shot was 8 years old, passed away. Brutal stuff.
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The two students struck by gunfire were standing behind Smith, the police chief said.
Jonathan Martinez, 8, died at Loma Linda University Medical Center in Loma Linda after being airlifted from the school, the police chief said. The other student, a 9-year-old boy, was listed in stable condition at the medical center, according to the hospital.
Police do not believe the two children were targeted; they happened to be near the teacher.
Burguan said that at the time of the shooting there were 15 students from grades one through four in the special needs classroom, along with two adult aides.
