Yeah they're obviously not going to tell you the fighters are there to shoot you down, but they've streamlined the process for them to get authority to do it. On 9/11, after all the "is this real world or a drill?!" there was quite a bit of "who do I need to call to get authority to shoot these planes down?"
Yeah I'm questioning the necessity of all that, they've already taxiied to an "isolated" part of the airport, and they'll do a thorough search of the aircraft after the fact. I don't see a need to go in guns blazing like everyone's a terrorist because one dude was being a moron.
Yeah I'm questioning the necessity of all that, they've already taxiied to an "isolated" part of the airport, and they'll do a thorough search of the aircraft after the fact. I don't see a need to go in guns blazing like everyone's a terrorist because one dude was being a moron.
Cops did it by the book. Secure the area for everybody's safety, THEN start working out what happened and who exactly is who. What if it's not just one moron? He could just a distraction, or part of a team. Have to prepare for the worst in these situations.
Yeah I'm questioning the necessity of all that, they've already taxiied to an "isolated" part of the airport, and they'll do a thorough search of the aircraft after the fact. I don't see a need to go in guns blazing like everyone's a terrorist because one dude was being a moron.
Yeah, you know, cause the Police can totally predict the future and just brush threats off cause someone was "being a moron".
Do they learn that in the same class as shooting guns out of hands?
The story I read (on ctv) said the guy had said he wanted to bomb Canada. That story made it sound like he never mentioned anything about the plane. Not trying to justify his actions or anything because no one should say the word 'bomb' on a plane - but is this standard procedure when someone does say 'bomb' on a plane - even if it's not a direct or indirect threat to the plane?
The best thing to do when a guy says he wants to bomb Canada, is turn around and fly back to Canada.
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Do they learn that in the same class as shooting guns out of hands?
Probably.
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Cops did it by the book. Secure the area for everybody's safety, THEN start working out what happened and who exactly is who. What if it's not just one moron? He could just a distraction, or part of a team. Have to prepare for the worst in these situations.
I get that, and I know enough FA's to know they appreciate the procedure. It's the right thing to do obviously, just doesn't make it suck any less for everybody else.
The police in that situation are walking into a confined space with lots of potential hostages and threats (a Sunswing 737-800 can carry up to 189 passengers).
That's 189 potential threats. The police don't know who the threat(s) are, how many, or where they will be on the plane.
They are going in blind, even with information such as description, name and assigned seat.
An a aviation threat isn't taken lightly as the plane turns from a passmnger vehicle into a missile.
Subdue the threat, eliminate it, thank people for their cooperation.
The police don't know if passenger in seat 4C is any more of a threat in that situation than in 34A. If the situation is at the point of returning the plane with military escort and armed police waiting at the Tarmac, don't Fata around and take it lightly.
If it's a misunderstanding, or one guy being a clown, you figure that out afterwards.
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The police in that situation are walking into a confined space with lots of potential hostages and threats (a Sunswing 737-800 can carry up to 189 passengers).
That's 189 potential threats. The police don't know who the threat(s) are, how many, or where they will be on the plane.
They are going in blind, even with information such as description, name and assigned seat.
If a team is storming a place, shouldn't they know, with as much certainty as possible, the targets and where they are located prior to entering a confined space? I'm thinking that storming a place is like a Smash & Grab where you want to complete your objective before the target knows what is going on and can react. If that's the case, you would need to gather as much information as possible and then quickly execute a plan based on the intelligence gathered.
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