02-28-2022, 08:39 AM
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#1821
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by shermanator
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I wouldn't be carrying water for FIFA just because they said they might 'consider' expelling them in the future. They made a decision today and they picked the absolute worst option - appeasing neither side and pissing both off.
The 3 countries (CZ, PO, SW) football associations have already written back confirming it changes nothing and they wont play ROC/RFU/whatever.
As the above said, FIFA always gets it wrong
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02-28-2022, 08:40 AM
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#1822
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So apparently Putin's minister of culture is leading these peace talks for Russia? Sounds like he's real serious.
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02-28-2022, 08:45 AM
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#1823
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: at home
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02-28-2022, 08:47 AM
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#1825
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by combustiblefuel
I think that's why countries have these volunteer programs In place that allows their citizens to go as private citizens and how ukraine has set up a "foreign volunteer " program . IMO the west is setting up huge loopholes to get troops in but just not having " official " support . Timings of these "loopholes" coupled with the assistance financial aid/ weapon drops . IMO the west will be fighting this war on the ground unofficially but keeping the claim we are not unless putin steps into Nato territory.
It's smart IMO . The west "volunteers"can bolster ground troops and the west can officially deny involvement so any escalation is put in Putins lap for fault.
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Wasn't Crimea taken by Russian troops 'on vacation'? Ironic that a similar tactic may end up biting him.
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02-28-2022, 08:51 AM
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#1826
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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well yeah, FIFA got it wrong. They failed to send a clear signal and opted for a weak "we might do something" half-measure. Not surprising because they always get it wrong, but disappointing nonetheless.
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02-28-2022, 08:53 AM
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#1827
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by combustiblefuel
I also had a thought is there a way that Ukraine could unexpectedly declare Lviv the Capital is Russians get to.close to kyiv and funny enough there is precedent i history thanks *ironically* because of the Russians. Peter the great just on a whim declared that st.peterbough would be a better capital city as it was more western and admit more trade and commerce. Than Moscow.
If all does go belly up would this be a play the Ukrainian government could accomplish in short order?
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The large trainloads of Russian equipment observed travelling to Brest potentially threatens Lviv, which would be yet another front to defend. Let's hope it doesn't come to that.
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02-28-2022, 08:56 AM
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#1828
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by transplant99
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Which companies are importing that oil. They should be pressured also.
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02-28-2022, 08:57 AM
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#1829
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Haifa, Israel
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I apologize for quoting Russian sources, but I don't see it reported in the west, so I will
As per Kremlin official site, Putin just had talks with French president Macron. Putin demanded recognize Crimea as Russian and ensure Ukraine neutrality. It is explicitly said, that Putin did not demand for Donbass republics.
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02-28-2022, 08:57 AM
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#1830
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by devo22
well yeah, FIFA got it wrong. They failed to send a clear signal and opted for a weak "we might do something" half-measure. Not surprising because they always get it wrong, but disappointing nonetheless.
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Those tweets that Shermanator posted said they were poised to suspend Russia. So that is taking the next step.
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02-28-2022, 08:57 AM
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#1831
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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This is the propaganda coming out of Moscow
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The Russian military and its Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republic allies began an operation in Ukraine on Thursday amid unceasing attacks by the Ukrainian military and nationalist units of the Ukrainian National Guard targeting the Donbass with artillery, mortar and sniper fire. The conflict is the culmination of a crisis which began in 2014.
Russia didn't start the years-old conflict in Ukraine, but is seeking to bring it to a conclusion, Defence Ministry spokesman Igor Konashenkov has said.
"Hostilities by the regime in Kiev and the systematic extermination of the inhabitants of the Donbass went on for eight years. In the course of this war, over 14,000 people, including hundreds of children, were killed. This had to be stopped. It was necessary to put an end to the endless threats from the regime in Kiev against Russia. And Russia will do so,"
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https://sputniknews.com/20220228/rus...093449218.html
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02-28-2022, 09:00 AM
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#1832
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SW Ontario
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Originally Posted by Pointman
I apologize for quoting Russian sources, but I don't see it reported in the west, so I will
As per Kremlin official site, Putin just had talks with French president Macron. Putin demanded recognize Crimea as Russian and ensure Ukraine neutrality. It is explicitly said, that Putin did not demand for Donbass republics.
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I wonder if you could get both sides to agree to a fair referendum in Crimea similar to what happened with Newfoundland in Canada.
Join Ukraine, Join Russia, go independent.
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02-28-2022, 09:19 AM
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#1833
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Calgary
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02-28-2022, 09:24 AM
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#1834
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Bonavista, Newfoundland
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Originally Posted by playmaker
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I dunno, could be shopped…
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02-28-2022, 09:30 AM
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#1835
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Originally Posted by Pointman
I apologize for quoting Russian sources, but I don't see it reported in the west, so I will
As per Kremlin official site, Putin just had talks with French president Macron. Putin demanded recognize Crimea as Russian and ensure Ukraine neutrality. It is explicitly said, that Putin did not demand for Donbass republics.
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That's not all he demanded, which makes the full request ridiculous.
https://twitter.com/user/status/1498318222961094656
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02-28-2022, 09:31 AM
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#1836
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pointman
I apologize for quoting Russian sources, but I don't see it reported in the west, so I will
As per Kremlin official site, Putin just had talks with French president Macron. Putin demanded recognize Crimea as Russian and ensure Ukraine neutrality. It is explicitly said, that Putin did not demand for Donbass republics.
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Would this mean Ukraine can't be admitted into the EU or just NATO?
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02-28-2022, 09:35 AM
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#1838
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame
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At this point, NATO probably wants to join Ukraine.
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02-28-2022, 09:37 AM
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#1839
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Lifetime Suspension
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No one tell Kenny he can move countries via twitter
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02-28-2022, 09:37 AM
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#1840
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Haifa, Israel
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sidney Crosby's Hat
Would this mean Ukraine can't be admitted into the EU or just NATO?
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Just NATO. Russia is fine with Ukraine in EU
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