Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[OldDutch]

Originally Posted by Izzle

We'll need to see the economic environment during election time. Lower taxes will still contribute to inflation.

I should look into this more, but so far what I've read is that liberals are trying to provide dental care to the masses. That doesn't seem like a vanity project.

Its not. It was blackmail by the NDP. I am sure Libs have plenty more preferred special interests that need funding vs begrudgingly funding dental

[b1crunch]

Originally Posted by OldDutch

Its not. It was blackmail by the NDP. I am sure Libs have plenty more preferred special interests that need funding vs begrudgingly funding dental

I get people not liking the economic interests of the Liberals or the NDP, but I don't understand the negative reactions to the Liberals and NDP working together. Lots of people in our society seem to view the two parties working together as some sort of sinister plot or 'blackmail' or whatever.

In reality, two parties working together is a positive for the country. In fact, this is the main positive of minority governments. It forces the ruling party to consider outside viewpoints and perspectives if it wants to maintain power. As such, this means the views of more Canadians are being represented in government policy. It's literally democracy at work, and arguably a better representation of what most Canadians want.

Working with the NDP is definitely pulling the policies of the Liberals to the left, and I can understand if someone does not like that for economic reasons. But at the end of the day, the more parties that have influence over government policy the better, as it ensures more Canadians are represented in the halls of power.

[craigwd]

Originally Posted by b1crunch

I get people not liking the economic interests of the Liberals or the NDP, but I don't understand the negative reactions to the Liberals and NDP working together. Lots of people in our society seem to view the two parties working together as some sort of sinister plot or 'blackmail' or whatever.

In reality, two parties working together is a positive for the country. In fact, this is the main positive of minority governments. It forces the ruling party to consider outside viewpoints and perspectives if it wants to maintain power. As such, this means the views of more Canadians are being represented in government policy. It's literally democracy at work, and arguably a better representation of what most Canadians want.

Working with the NDP is definitely pulling the policies of the Liberals to the left, and I can understand if someone does not like that for economic reasons. But at the end of the day, the more parties that have influence over government policy the better, as it ensures more Canadians are represented in the halls of power.

It should be the positive of all governments

[FormerPresJamesTaylor]

Guess they won't be attacking Trudeau next election for a lack of real world experience

[MarchHare]

Originally Posted by b1crunch

I get people not liking the economic interests of the Liberals or the NDP, but I don't understand the negative reactions to the Liberals and NDP working together. Lots of people in our society seem to view the two parties working together as some sort of sinister plot or 'blackmail' or whatever.

In reality, two parties working together is a positive for the country. In fact, this is the main positive of minority governments. It forces the ruling party to consider outside viewpoints and perspectives if it wants to maintain power. As such, this means the views of more Canadians are being represented in government policy. It's literally democracy at work, and arguably a better representation of what most Canadians want.

Working with the NDP is definitely pulling the policies of the Liberals to the left, and I can understand if someone does not like that for economic reasons. But at the end of the day, the more parties that have influence over government policy the better, as it ensures more Canadians are represented in the halls of power.

I'm sure I've posted this before, but I'll post it again now:.

Conservative supporters: Canadian voters returned a minority government. The parties need to find a way to cooperate and work together.

*Liberals and NDP find a way to cooperate and work together*

Conservative supporters: No not like that.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

I'm sure I've posted this before, but I'll post it again now:.

Conservative supporters: Canadian voters returned a minority government. The parties need to find a way to cooperate and work together.

*Liberals and NDP find a way to cooperate and work together*

Conservative supporters: No not like that.

Frankly, I think its more nuanced than you're giving it credit for.

But whatever, it really doesnt matter, nobody cares about economics anymore, not even the 'Conservatives.'

Its all just 'someone else's problem.'

[CaptainCrunch]

Jean Charest packs it in

Not unexpected.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1569015528806572036

[malcolmk14]

Well, I don't actually mind Trudeau. Guess he'll be Prime Minister till 2030 or so.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Locke

Frankly, I think its more nuanced than you're giving it credit for.

But whatever, it really doesnt matter, nobody cares about economics anymore, not even the 'Conservatives.'

Its all just 'someone else's problem.'

I don’t think in our lifetimes there has ever been a party that truly prioritized managing finances responsibly.

Cuts to public services have always been done while waiving the flag of fiscal responsibility but I think most people can see that there has always been other motives behind such moves, especially when it comes to healthcare.

[StickMan]

Originally Posted by b1crunch

I get people not liking the economic interests of the Liberals or the NDP, but I don't understand the negative reactions to the Liberals and NDP working together. Lots of people in our society seem to view the two parties working together as some sort of sinister plot or 'blackmail' or whatever.

In reality, two parties working together is a positive for the country. In fact, this is the main positive of minority governments. It forces the ruling party to consider outside viewpoints and perspectives if it wants to maintain power. As such, this means the views of more Canadians are being represented in government policy. It's literally democracy at work, and arguably a better representation of what most Canadians want.

Working with the NDP is definitely pulling the policies of the Liberals to the left, and I can understand if someone does not like that for economic reasons. But at the end of the day, the more parties that have influence over government policy the better, as it ensures more Canadians are represented in the halls of power.

This arrangement gives Jagmeet all the power. Trudeau has to do what Jagmeet wants or he won't get support. In a way it makes Jagmeet our unelected prime minister as he has control over Trudeau, when in reality almost nobody voted for Jagmeet.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by StickMan

This arrangement gives Jagmeet all the power. Trudeau has to do what Jagmeet wants or he won't get support. In a way it makes Jagmeet our unelected prime minister as he has control over Trudeau, when in reality almost nobody voted for Jagmeet.

Only if the conservatives choose to give Jagmeet that power.

If Jagmeet says that’s a deal breaker than Trudeau can go shopping for support from the Bloc or cons to get a key budget bill passed.

Why haven’t the conservatives been working with the liberals to get policy passed in the house? I suspect it’s because they believe their electoral fortunes are better if they are just critical jackasses then attempting to be active participants in government.

The issue isn’t that Trudeau has to do what Jagmeet says it’s other parties believe that the damage being done to Trudeau’s electoral credibility is higher if they do not try to moderate Trudeau by offering support.

Jagmeet is doing what he and his party was elected to do. Advance NDP ideas as far as possible while being limited by the number of seats.

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by malcolmk14

Well, I don't actually mind Trudeau. Guess he'll be Prime Minister till 2030 or so.

Elvis has a better chance of coming back.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Yoho

Elvis has a better chance of coming back.

“It’s coming” TM

[Manhattanboy]

Here’s my wish for the new CPC leader.

Please keep the needle in the centre and just be normal.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by malcolmk14

Well, I don't actually mind Trudeau. Guess he'll be Prime Minister till 2030 or so.

Originally Posted by Yoho

Elvis has a better chance of coming back.

I dont know why anyone would admit to not 'minding' Trudeau other than he is the least unpalatable option and...there is probably something in it for them.

Thats the beauty of 'High Minded Morality' you can hide behind it when you're the beneficiary of the grift.

But to your point...no. Trudeau has a much better chance of being PM until 2030 than Elvis has of returning to life.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

Here’s my wish for the new CPC leader.

Please keep the needle in the centre and just be normal.

It appears some people havent been paying attention.

"Level headed sanity" doesnt get you anywhere. You need to be insane. The crazier the better.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Locke

But to your point...no. Trudeau has a much better chance of being PM until 2030 than Elvis has of returning to life.

What odds are Vegas giving on Jesus?

[Locke]

Originally Posted by iggy_oi

What odds are Vegas giving on Jesus?

I dont really gamble so I couldnt say.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Jean Charest packs it in

Not unexpected.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1569015528806572036

I can't tell if he's looking around the lady to point at someone or is hugging the lady with a gimped finger.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

Here’s my wish for the new CPC leader.

Please keep the needle in the centre and just be normal.

Well, may as well start picking your next party to vote for then.