[PGT] Flames 5 Kings 2 - 11th in a row for Moose

[BigBrodieFan]

[savemedrzaius]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Doughty is sour

He doesn't sound sour. He says he thought it could have been an elbow but wasn't sure, surprised a rookie plays such a physical game and even took some blame saying he might have initiated it himself with how he was playing earlier against him.

[VANFLAMESFAN]

Originally Posted by blender

It was a shot to the face with the back of the arm.

Call it like it is.....it was an elbow. Pretty blatant one no matter how much it gets dissected.

[driveway]

Originally Posted by Hockey

Not an advanced stats guy or anything and haven't watched all Flames games in past but if Elliott plays like he has been you guys have just a good a shot as most teams. Although I think the cup stays out east again

Calgary has the 7th best 5v5 Corsi for in the league (51.17%) and the 9th best Fenwick (51.04%)

In 15-16 PIT and SJS were 3rd and 5th in Corsi and 4th and 3rd in Fenwick.
14-15 CHI and TBL - 5th, 4th Corsi and 10th, 4th Fenwick
13-14 LAK and NYR - 1st, 8th Corsi and 1st, 7th Fenwick

Based on that I'd say the Flames are not quite a true contender for the Cup, but probably a strong dark horse.

[Heavy Jack]

Yep, that's an elbow plain as day. Tkachuk shows no fear playing like this at such a young age... he's gonna be an absolute beast to play against as he gets older and matures

[greentree]

Oh please. The Tkachuk hit. The hysterics. The horror.
P*ssification of the world continues apace.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by driveway

Calgary has the 7th best 5v5 Corsi for in the league (51.17%) and the 9th best Fenwick (51.04%)

In 15-16 PIT and SJS were 3rd and 5th in Corsi and 4th and 3rd in Fenwick.
14-15 CHI and TBL - 5th, 4th Corsi and 10th, 4th Fenwick
13-14 LAK and NYR - 1st, 8th Corsi and 1st, 7th Fenwick

Based on that I'd say the Flames are not quite a true contender for the Cup, but probably a strong dark horse.

Elliott's SV% on the season is also still only .911, so even with this recent streak, Elliott as a whole can play better over a whole season.

[Huntingwhale]

Originally Posted by Weitz

Was a pretty dirty elbow.

https://streamable.com/qic1g

But if you can do that without getting caught it's a pretty good way to get guys off their game. Doughty was pretty bad the 2nd 2 periods imo. But I wouldn't be surprised to see guys taking runs at flames players next time
They play as the kings will be out of it (they already are IMO).

Damn, I'm taking my Flames glasses off and calling it as it is: a dirty elbow.

Wouldn't be surprised if Tkachuk gets some discipline for that. Guy walks the line every game. But he clearly went over it on that play

And again, refs fail to make the right call and call a penalty. Brutal on the ref's part.

[keratosis]

Originally Posted by driveway

Calgary has the 7th best 5v5 Corsi for in the league (51.17%) and the 9th best Fenwick (51.04%)

In 15-16 PIT and SJS were 3rd and 5th in Corsi and 4th and 3rd in Fenwick.
14-15 CHI and TBL - 5th, 4th Corsi and 10th, 4th Fenwick
13-14 LAK and NYR - 1st, 8th Corsi and 1st, 7th Fenwick

Based on that I'd say the Flames are not quite a true contender for the Cup, but probably a strong dark horse.

What the hell did you just say? Just sounded like blah blah blah.

[Major Major]

Originally Posted by DazzlinDino

Doughty seems fine with the way Tkachuk plays and that they both play that way, but more upset that Tkachuk hurt him.

That and he seems pissed that he's doing it as a rookie, like you need to earn the right to play this way. Guess what Drew, Tkachuk doesn't give a @#£&!

[calgaryblood]

Originally Posted by greentree

Oh please. The Tkachuk hit. The hysterics. The horror.
P*ssification of the world continues apace.

It wasn't a hit. It was an elbow to the head. If that was on Gaudreau we'd have 8 threads up already calling for Doughty"s head.

How is calling out a clear cheap elbow to the head "pussification of the world"? Literally makes no sense.

[blender]

Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN

Call it like it is.....it was an elbow. Pretty blatant one no matter how much it gets dissected.

Fair enough. Edited my post for clarity. My position remains unchanged.

[Heavy Jack]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Elliott's SV% on the season is also still only .911, so even with this recent streak, Elliott as a whole can play better over a whole season.

In fairness his stats from late November on are elite to go along with all the team stats since that time. That 5-10-1 start is the sole reason we aren't a true contender at this point but that could change in the final 10 here if we keep our current pace. Exciting stuff! Haven't been this pumped in a while!

[LanceUppercut]

It doesn't matter if it was a dirty elbow or not,Doughty played the rest of the game. According to the NHL wheel of justice there will most likely be no supplemental discipline. If Doughty was injured you would more likely see a suspension.

[shadowlord]

Originally Posted by Weitz

Was a pretty dirty elbow.

https://streamable.com/qic1g

But if you can do that without getting caught it's a pretty good way to get guys off their game. Doughty was pretty bad the 2nd 2 periods imo. But I wouldn't be surprised to see guys taking runs at flames players next time
They play as the kings will be out of it (they already are IMO).

See, the thing about that camera angle is this: If you look at Tkachuk's right arm, his elbow is where the yellow/white stripes are on the jersey arm.

But if one does a frame-by-frame play, it seems like the first point of contact is clearly in the red part of Tkachuk's jersey, and close enough to the first letter of his name bar to be at the top of the shoulder. You never actually see the yellow/white stripes of left arm make contact with Doughty.

A few frames after the hit, it seems like his left elbow is actually between Doughty's body and left arm.

That being said, it did seem like Tkachuk "launched" himself into Doughty... so Tkachuk intended to make a hit of some kind.

Do I have a case for a shoulder-hit?

[calgarywinning]

The elbow to the head was followed up by a retaliation elbow to the head. Two wrongs.

Could have been a difference maker in the game.

[Heavy Jack]

Originally Posted by shadowlord

Do I have a case for a shoulder-hit?

Nope.

Dirty elbow is dirty.

[Babby Daddy]

Looked like a dirty elbow to me.

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by Rejean31

Just noticed the Flames accomplished.something with this win that the Oilers haven't done since Gretzky was on their team. The Flames got win #41 and thus have won half the games on their schedule.

But are they over .500?

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by Gaudfather

We forget that Gio missed the playoff run two years ago, so he wants the playoffs worse than anything. Question is can he go into even more beast mode in the playoffs? That will be scary for opponents.

30 minutes a game of this Gio instead of 22 would be pretty ****ing beastmode.