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Old 10-06-2022, 02:23 PM   #1601
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And the thing is, it could have been okay.

Geordi acts all super creepy. Brahms finds out that he's actually been even creepier than that, and then she understands why, sets Geordi straight and like a chastised child he wises up and acts like a professional.

But then she apologizes to him at the end?? Naw...theres no coming back from that. If only they'd not done that.
oh yes, the fact that Geordi just conveniently knew all these very specific details about her personal life and interests, and attempted to use them during the 1-on-1 work meeting in his personal quarters (for which he slipped into something more comfortable for without warning her) was nearly as bad as the holodeck french kiss bot.

Troi was amazingly in control of her emotions when she discovered her Barclay sex clone. that Riker was grinning his face off the whole time is only more evidence that he's a no-good manchild XO.
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oh yes, the fact that Geordi just conveniently knew all these very specific details about her personal life and interests, and attempted to use them during the 1-on-1 work meeting in his personal quarters (for which he slipped into something more comfortable for without warning her) was nearly as bad as the holodeck french kiss bot.

Troi was amazingly in control of her emotions when she discovered her Barclay sex clone. that Riker was grinning his face off the whole time is only more evidence that he's a no-good manchild XO.
Imagine if Jellicho had been there and discovered that in Barclay's universe he wears a saddle and Barclay just rides him around...

Executed on the spot.
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I'm liking this whole Captain Jellico fixes everything wrong with TNG leadership. when they got stuck in the Enterprise destruction time loop, Jellico would have just yelled at the timeline to straighten itself out and that there would be no more temporal anomalies on his watch.
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oh yes, the fact that Geordi just conveniently knew all these very specific details about her personal life and interests, and attempted to use them during the 1-on-1 work meeting in his personal quarters (for which he slipped into something more comfortable for without warning her) was nearly as bad as the holodeck french kiss bot.

Troi was amazingly in control of her emotions when she discovered her Barclay sex clone. that Riker was grinning his face off the whole time is only more evidence that he's a no-good manchild XO.
You've got to think that that would be a very common occurrence with holotech.
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You've got to think that that would be a very common occurrence with holotech.
You know it. They deal with it a lot more in DS9.

Quark's Holo-Suites were essentially exactly what you'd think they are.
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Lower Decks this week...

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I loved how Jellico latched onto Data and Data was like "shrug?" after every time he asked him to follow him.

All Worf had to do was say "hmmp finally!" on the bridge in response to an order from Data which caused Data to take him into the Ready Room and chew him out. At the time, Data told Worf he never saw Riker show an insubordinate attitude toward Picard. Was that before or after this episode? Riker was the most insubordinate prick who was lazy, comfortable, and questions Jellico's every order because he thought he knew his own ship better.

All this stuff about Riker being one of the finest officers in the fleet - I think he actually demonstrated this in the first season and after that he just became a lazy character who lost all ambition and decided to play trombone, grow a beard, and get fat on the flagship.

If Jellico was in command during The Best of Both Worlds he would have fired the deflector dish weapon or ordered ramming speed on first sight before being captured like Picard and letting them adapt to it.

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Lower Decks this week...

I give them credit for doing something completely different in that episode, and also having one of the greatest lines in Star Trek History

"The engines are overloading!!!! What the F44k is going on"?

I don't think it was great and they were pushing hard for shock moments like weird bird people robot sex.
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You've got to think that that would be a very common occurrence with holotech.
It'd be the worst job for a lower deck crewman assigned to clean the holodeck.

Oh great Riker is coming out.
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It'd be the worst job for a lower deck crewman assigned to clean the holodeck.

Oh great Riker is coming out.
I assumed the matter recyclers would take care of anything left over after the program ends. Think about that for a second the next time you order a tea, earl grey, hot.
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I assumed the matter recyclers would take care of anything left over after the program ends. Think about that for a second the next time you order a tea, earl grey, hot.
In DS9 there are actual shots of Quark cleaning the Holosuites.

Because, inexplicably, they are carpeted...so he's in there with a vacuum cleaner.
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I don't think it was great and they were pushing hard for shock moments like weird bird people robot sex.
It's the cool thing to do with animated shows these days, at least Lower Decks isn't going for the incest angle like Rick and Morty
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I do think one of the best things Lower Decks has done is making an Exocomp an Ensign. Such an amazing callback. It's just too bad this Exocomp is a bit annoying.
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You know it. They deal with it a lot more in DS9.

Quark's Holo-Suites were essentially exactly what you'd think they are.
Ds9 takes it more head on. In one episode, someone pays quark to try and make a holo sex clone of Kira, and he spends it trying to creep shot her with a camera. Appropriately he gets the #### beat out of him.
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CTV Sci-Fi seems to be running through all TNG episodes at the moment, last night was the one where Brahms visits the Enterprise and they're dealing with the baby space leech sucking on reactor juice. it's still very entertaining but wow did it ever age like Ferengi milk.

Geordi spends the whole time awkwardly attempting to seduce a married woman that clearly has no interest. he even sets up a dinner date ambush under the guise of a working meeting. then she discovers her much more "receptive" copy on the holodeck (every time you touch the engine, you're touching me...lol) and after a perfectly understandable horrified reaction, Geordi yells at her that she's being ungrateful for his offerings of friendship. the episode ends with Leah apologizing to Geordi for being too absorbed in her work to reciprocate his friendly intentions...which is total bs because his reaction to the news that she's married is totally not that of someone who just wants to be friends.

so yeah, nice time capsule into early 90's social standards. simultaneous laughter and cringing can sometimes be the best way to enjoy classic TV.
Haha this is my dad and I's least favorite episode.

It makes it worse that later on, in the episode where they find Scotty stuck in the old transporter buffer, it shows them having a conversation about the events of this episode. So when he meets arguably the most famous engineer in Starfleet history, that's the story he tells.
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Instead of a celebration of TNG, we get more Into the Darkness and evil Moriarty and Lore. Great.
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Instead of a celebration of TNG, we get more Into the Darkness and evil Moriarty and Lore. Great.
I dont know what to say. I'm....cautiously optimistic?

I think thats what I said before season 2 and I had that cautious optimism thoroughly beaten out of me like a Political Dissident in a Siberian Gulag.

Maybe more TNG is the answer? Perhaps?

Or...this is going to be like a dog scraping its ass along a rug.

It could go either way really.
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Just when I think I'm out, they pull me back in. That trailer looks badass.
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Just when I think I'm out, they pull me back in. That trailer looks badass.
You know its a lie!! You literally know it!

They did the same thing last season!
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With the Picard writing crew, I think they’re best to just keep things simple like they seem to be doing here. Just a straight up villain who wants to blow up the Federation and some deep cut TNG villains making a comeback. They’ve tried to do more complicated storylines the first two seasons and bungled it up. This could at least be fun and entertaining.
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