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GirlySports · 03-21-2022, 01:34 PM

Canada never sent it's Olympic team to the worlds in the past. Gushue is the first due to getting a wildcard to the Brier and then winning it.
Mouat shouldn't complain. He got to go to the worlds in 2018 when Kyle Smith went to the Olympics.

GirlySports · 03-21-2022, 01:40 PM

and an actual announcement!

https://twitter.com/user/status/1505938637560721414

mrkajz44 · 03-21-2022, 03:46 PM

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What a strange announcement.

Seem like they tried to be funny, but it just doesn't land.

Derek Sutton · 03-21-2022, 03:56 PM

Team Homan saying today they will be announcing their new lead later this week. Homan, Miskew, Wilkes staying together and likely playing out of Ontario as all three were born there. Province of birth or place of residence the two criteria for home province.

GirlySports · 03-21-2022, 04:05 PM

Einarson really struggling. Settling for singles. It should be 4-1 instead of 2-1

transplant99 · 03-21-2022, 06:57 PM

https://twitter.com/user/status/1505960225366585352

nieuwy-89 · 03-22-2022, 11:29 PM

Einarson has bounced back nicely with two wins a row. Sweeting seems to have found her game which will make a huge difference if she can stay at 85% or more. Beat Sweden tomorrow and they will be sitting very nicely at 6-1.

squiggs96 · 03-23-2022, 12:55 AM

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Einarson has bounced back nicely with two wins a row. Sweeting seems to have found her game which will make a huge difference if she can stay at 85% or more. Beat Sweden tomorrow and they will be sitting very nicely at 6-1.

Canada is 4-2. If they beat Sweden they will be 5-2.

GirlySports · 03-23-2022, 10:20 AM

BIG 3 points for Canada in the first end. It's so important to start with hammer in big games like this, just psychologically.

squiggs96 · 03-23-2022, 10:32 AM

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BIG 3 points for Canada in the first end. It's so important to start with hammer in big games like this, just psychologically.

Ever since hammer started getting decided by the draw to the button, I have made it such a huge priority on my teams. Kevin Martin talked about this for years, and how much an advantage it is in the 8 end games.

I think our team played 35 games this year and we had the clockwise turn every single practice. If we won the coin flip we took whatever practice would give us that turn. It just kept us locked in. There were several variations of the LSD. Some were everyone gets one rock up, one rock back, and then the one LSD. Some were everyone gets two up, two back, one LSD. The weirdest was one person got one up, one back, and then the LSD. No one else got to throw a rock in practice. Provincials was 10 minutes of unlimited rocks, and then two LSDs, with the combined score being used. I think we were 24-5 in getting hammer in the first end. Some were predetermined with playoff seeding. I never lost one all year.

GirlySports · 03-23-2022, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by squiggs96

Ever since hammer started getting decided by the draw to the button, I have made it such a huge priority on my teams. Kevin Martin talked about this for years, and how much an advantage it is in the 8 end games.

I think our team played 35 games this year and we had the clockwise turn every single practice. If we won the coin flip we took whatever practice would give us that turn. It just kept us locked in. There were several variations of the LSD. Some were everyone gets one rock up, one rock back, and then the one LSD. Some were everyone gets two up, two back, one LSD. The weirdest was one person got one up, one back, and then the LSD. No one else got to throw a rock in practice. Provincials was 10 minutes of unlimited rocks, and then two LSDs, with the combined score being used. I think we were 24-5 in getting hammer in the first end. Some were predetermined with playoff seeding. I never lost one all year.

I wish they would show this, as the first part of the game or broadcast.

GirlySports · 03-23-2022, 10:56 AM

steals in the 2nd and 3rd and Canada's up 5-0. Sweden cannot figure out the goofy World ice. Hasselborg is curling 30%.

squiggs96 · 03-23-2022, 12:03 PM

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I wish they would show this, as the first part of the game or broadcast.

There are so many things wrong with how curling is broadcast. They seldom show lead rocks, and when they do they are split screen with a commercial we've all see 500+ times. Could you imagine the NFL not showing kick offs to start a half or after a score? They do the recaps way too often, or show what is upcoming, instead of show lead rocks and/or the LSD before the games. They don't need to show the practices, but they can take 45 seconds to show both teams' LSDs. I understand curling needs sponsorship to survive. If you can't show every shot in the 11th end of the Brier final, something is massively wrong. There are about 10 things they show instead of lead rocks, and then recap what we missed. That is a poor formula. The camera angle for a lot of the overhead angles is wrong, since it won't show the guards or the back of the rings.

I understand the goal is for people of all levels to understand and enjoy the broadcast, so I've accepted that Vic plays the dumb guy and asks dumb questions. I doesn't matter that I don't like how he repeats things while the stone is in play (gotta get it by, gotta get it by, brush hard to get it by). But what can be immediately corrected is the announcers need to stop talking as much. Instead of guessing what Koe's going to do, they could just listen to Koe and his team debate the shot. In the 9th end of the Brier Koe had hammer. He chose to just come up to shot rock, in order to give Gushue a steal of one. You could see this by how Morris and Koe acted in the house with their brooms. You could hear this from Neufeld saying throw draw to the button weight. If you are drawing the button you don't say draw the button weight. At home we could barely hear it because Russ and Vic were talking. The rock was halfway down and they both thought Koe missed the shot. It's embarrassing how often something like that happens.

MoneyGuy · 03-23-2022, 12:13 PM

I like the analysis and speculation by the announcers who have curled at a high level. Vic is kind of useless but I want to hear what the others have to say.

GirlySports · 03-23-2022, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by squiggs96

There are so many things wrong with how curling is broadcast. They seldom show lead rocks, and when they do they are split screen with a commercial we've all see 500+ times. Could you imagine the NFL not showing kick offs to start a half or after a score? They do the recaps way too often, or show what is upcoming, instead of show lead rocks and/or the LSD before the games. They don't need to show the practices, but they can take 45 seconds to show both teams' LSDs. I understand curling needs sponsorship to survive. If you can't show every shot in the 11th end of the Brier final, something is massively wrong. There are about 10 things they show instead of lead rocks, and then recap what we missed. That is a poor formula. The camera angle for a lot of the overhead angles is wrong, since it won't show the guards or the back of the rings.

I understand the goal is for people of all levels to understand and enjoy the broadcast, so I've accepted that Vic plays the dumb guy and asks dumb questions. I doesn't matter that I don't like how he repeats things while the stone is in play (gotta get it by, gotta get it by, brush hard to get it by). But what can be immediately corrected is the announcers need to stop talking as much. Instead of guessing what Koe's going to do, they could just listen to Koe and his team debate the shot. In the 9th end of the Brier Koe had hammer. He chose to just come up to shot rock, in order to give Gushue a steal of one. You could see this by how Morris and Koe acted in the house with their brooms. You could hear this from Neufeld saying throw draw to the button weight. If you are drawing the button you don't say draw the button weight. At home we could barely hear it because Russ and Vic were talking. The rock was halfway down and they both thought Koe missed the shot. It's embarrassing how often something like that happens.

It's worse at the worlds because they don't care about tv. I think at the Brier there is some break between ends for commercials. So at the worlds, they're coming back and it's second stones. A world game shaves off 30 minutes and it usually within 3 hours.

And now Canada in a bit of trouble, their turn not to be able to figure out goofy ice.

Derek Sutton · 03-24-2022, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MoneyGuy

I like the analysis and speculation by the announcers who have curled at a high level. Vic is kind of useless but I want to hear what the others have to say.

I enjoyed Joanne Courtney during the Olympics and I like the Grand Slam coverage as it is usually Kevin Martin and Joan McCusker. Sportsnet also uses different camera angles (a camera that from either end that gives the viewer a real eye for how much curl the ice has) and does "around the ring coverage" showing some of each game at a time. I have really had enough of Russ Howard over the years and will often watch with the sound muted, as mentioned by Squiggs, shut up Russ and lets hear the players discuss their strategy/ shot. In example Squiggs used however Vic and Russ may have been talking thinking we wouldn't be able to hear the players as Morris and Hebert both tossed their mic's earlier in the game.