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Old 07-10-2023, 12:30 PM   #141
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I’m happiest when I’m feeling fit, strong and able bodied. I’m at my most miserable self when I’m not able to physically do the things I’m used to, like rehabbing after a surgery, or dealing with a nagging injury. I also love having something to aspire to, fitness and strength goals are the ones that are often most attainable with the clearest roadmap. I see nothing toxic about wanting to be strong and fit.
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I don't read it that way, all things being equal a fit man will be happier than a fat man is all it is saying.
Switch out fit for spiritual and I don't think it rings true. Physical activity increase your mental strength as well, mental strength does nothing for my physical well being.

Also physical activity improves cognitive thinking, relieves stress, improves your mood, helps with sleep, and improves your energy levels.
All of the above make me happier!
More than that it makes my partner happy and it makes the people I am able to help happy which in turn makes me happy.

Don't get me wrong I live with chronic physical pain. I have not taken a pain free step in two years. Still, I am happier being in pain and being as physically active as possible than I ever was sitting around because I hurting.
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That's exercise in general, not specific to lifting.
Runners high? Cyclists get it too.
Exercise in general makes you feel better, all the things you say about lifting could easily be applied to the vast majority of physical exercises.
This is 100% true but another aspect people should keep in mind is the bodies difficulty to create muscle as we age.
It's well reported that some strength training is optimal as you age for longevity & lowering health risks.
https://www.everydayhealth.com/fitne...study%20found.

No one needs to be a power lifter, but there's definitely benefits to everyone having some lifting (or other strength training) in their life.
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This is 100% true but another aspect people should keep in mind is the bodies difficulty to create muscle as we age.
It's well reported that some strength training is optimal as you age for longevity & lowering health risks.
https://www.everydayhealth.com/fitne...study%20found.

No one needs to be a power lifter, but there's definitely benefits to everyone having some lifting (or other strength training) in their life.
Agreed, I'm not into lifting but certainly see the benefits if that's your thing. In general, if you're not getting yourself off the couch and doing 60 mins of exercise 3-4 times a week you're doing yourself a disservice.
Out of shape people do not age well, you want to be able to run your own errands later in life you might want to invest in your future now.
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People debate the strangest things. It's pretty clear that muscle and strength both extend your life and give you a better quality of life as well. I don't even see how that is controversial.
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I wasn't arguing that, just the toxic nature of the quotes. People also have really poor reading comprehension, and prefer to make their own argument as they go and pretend it is what the OP said.
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Old 07-11-2023, 08:41 AM   #147
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Update on my fitness journey, hit 199 this morning! First time I've seen the other side of 200 in close to a decade.

I've also had to up my cardio / treadmill workouts to include jogging instead of just power walking, the power walking was getting a bit too easy and not getting my heart rate up enough. Best shape I've been in probably ever, even when I was young and skinny I wasn't in good shape, you know? Just good metabolism and working on my feet a lot.

Interested to see how far I can get by the summer now, since I already hit my goal. Set my next goal as 192, which would be down 50 lbs from the start. Not in a big rush though, just happy to have accomplished this.

My reward was ordering a new set of silicone wedding rings, all the ones I have are falling off now lol.
Saw this thread bumped, I’ve continued my exercise journey further in 2023 and have hit 182lbs, 60lbs lost in six months. Working on my running time, and I just bought a spin bike for the basement too to give me a little variety when I can’t bike outside.

Though I’ve been on holiday on the Okanagan for the last few days so I’m sure I’m coming back up a few pounds with some work to do, lol
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I wasn't arguing that, just the toxic nature of the quotes. People also have really poor reading comprehension, and prefer to make their own argument as they go and pretend it is what the OP said.
Oh settle down with the "poor reading comprehension" blast.
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I wasn't arguing that, just the toxic nature of the quotes.
Yeah I get what you're saying. On the one hand, certainly motivating quotes that are clearly helping people at the gym, so that's great. But yeah, a couple of those kinda read like it was originally said by someone who openly refers to themself as an "alpha".

Also this convo has motivated me to take my slightly hung over from Stampede butt to the gym today.
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Old 07-11-2023, 09:12 AM   #150
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Oh settle down with the "poor reading comprehension" blast.
Is there another reason people argue against points that weren't made?
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I wasn't arguing that, just the toxic nature of the quotes.
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People debate the strangest things. It's pretty clear that muscle and strength both extend your life and give you a better quality of life as well. I don't even see how that is controversial.
Lifting also increases and maintains bone density. Loss of bone density is one of the greatest contributors to loss of physical ability as we age.
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The assumption you must have physical strength to be happy, and that it is offensive to those who choose to pursue happyness elsewhere. First off, I'd love to see the data on that one. Second, even suggesting it is a toxic form of elevating yourself above others becuase you lift, bro.


The rest of the statements lead to similarly toxic thinking. Great you find physical activity rewarding. Leave the toxic #### at the door.
He didn't say that. He said all things being equal, you'll be happier if you have everything you have, plus you are strong:

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"A weak man is not as happy as that same man would be if he were strong."
That's probably true. How many people are going to say they'd like to be less strong? It's likely true of most positive aspects.
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He didn't say that. He said all things being equal, you'll be happier if you have everything you have, plus you are strong:

That's probably true. How many people are going to say they'd like to be less strong? It's likely true of most positive aspects.
OK, so that's just obvious stuff. I'd be happier if I had a lot of things, like no pain. But I really explained my position in this post, so I'm not sure why we are circling back...

https://forum.calgarypuck.com/showpo...&postcount=130

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A weak man is not as happy as that same man would be if he were strong. This reality is offensive to some people who would like the intellectual or spiritual to take precedence.
That's stupid toxic nonsense. Note the word precedence is doing the heavy lifting here. Why does physical strength take precedence over intelligent or spiritual happiness? Presumably by these standards most women will never be as happy as a man. It's just unhelpful toxic claptrap that young men latch on to as false superiority to lord over others. And to those with physical disabilities? "Sorry dude, you can never be truly happy!"
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That's stupid toxic nonsense. Note the word precedence is doing the heavy lifting here. Why does physical strength take precedence over intelligent or spiritual happiness? Presumably by these standards most women will never be as happy as a man. It's just unhelpful toxic claptrap that young men latch on to as false superiority to lord over others. And to those with physical disabilities? "Sorry dude, you can never be truly happy!"
You cannot seriously be this--... ugh, this makes my brain hurt. Strength is relative to the individual, not to those around you. The fact I'll never be as strong as Dwayne Johnson means nothing in regards to how happy I can be if I am a stronger version of myself.

Seriously, Fuzz, can you just not for a change? Even the most light-hearted topics somehow bring out your inner Buzz Killington. Just let it be.
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If I don’t do some formS of exercise my body brain and attitude all go downhill. Past injuries get more sensitive. Some forms of exercise (even mild yoga) bring mental relief much like meditation and calms the nerves mind and anxiety. We each have different tolerances to life and stress, much like different interests in forms of stress relief. You do you. But a sparkly new high end bike brings the best happiness of all. Mind you getting lucky does too, for those few moments….
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I've struggled with staying fit since having kids, but over time have been adding habits and each day I aim to accomplish 10 things, each of which is quite simple to do.

My 10 Goals are:
1. Wake up early
2. Get outside for a walk immediately
3. Fast until 10am
4. Do a midday workout (Weight, Peloton, Run, Yoga)
5. Eat whole foods: olive oil, veggies, fruit, eggs, dairy, salmon, nuts, fruit.
6. Meditate
7. Cut out alcohol (usually 1 or 2 nights a week will have some wine)
8. Don't eat after dinner
9 Tech off by 8pm
10. Aim to be asleep by 9pm

Some days I get all 10, other days I get only 5, but normally it's around 8-9 (meditation is the one I miss most often, even though I love it).

I find this works for me, and have lost about 10 lbs in 6 months. I'm going for a long slow lifestyle change rather than something dramatic, as I want something I can continue to do.

The killer in the above is holidays, when I get 1 or 2 of the 10 goals done each day.
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You cannot seriously be this--... ugh, this makes my brain hurt. Strength is relative to the individual, not to those around you. The fact I'll never be as strong as Dwayne Johnson means nothing in regards to how happy I can be if I am a stronger version of myself.

Seriously, Fuzz, can you just not for a change? Even the most light-hearted topics somehow bring out your inner Buzz Killington. Just let it be.
I don't know, those quotes are pretty cringey. They sound like a gym bro version of those terrible motivational quote signs.
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Only on CP could something that distills down to be better be labeled as "toxic" LOL
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