American Politics 3.0 - Back to Brunch

[Red Ice Player]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

Yeah, I don't doubt it at all, just saying it was from 10 years ago.

I hope RFK jr. pulls a bunch of votes away from Trump conspiracy nutters. It might just be the one thing that saves the election.

Rodgers can say he doesn't believe it anymore, but I cannot see him actually admitting he was wrong about something.

[Wastedyouth]

Originally Posted by Red Ice Player

Rodgers can say he doesn't believe it anymore, but I cannot see him actually admitting he was wrong about something.

He's very recently, on the Pat Mcaffee show, talked about Qanon stuff.

[puffnstuff]

Pence says he wont endorse trump.

[greyshep]

Nice of him to finally say it out loud I guess. Doubt it will move the needle much. The guy still says he wont vote for Biden or a 3rd party so...

He is a weird duck, largely stuck on the abortion topic as a main reason he is not "endorsing".

[SutterBrother]

Originally Posted by greyshep

He is a weird duck, evangelical largely stuck on the abortion topic as a main reason he is not "endorsing" .

FYP

And he’ll still vote for Trump. Even though Donald tried to have him murdered.

Because Sky Daddy makes the rules and allows him to avoid taking a stand by “praying on it”.

[MoneyGuy]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

On today's episode of "God Bless America"....

Aaron Rodgers is sh1tting all over his legacy. Anyone was to buy his Packers’ jersey? I may just strip off his name.

[Mathgod]

President Biden plans to bring some sanity back to the tax code. America, vote blue up and down the ballot!

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-...ir-fair-share/

https://www.americanprogress.org/art...onal-revenues/

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

Pence says he wont endorse trump.

I should hope not. Trump cultists were prepared to publicly execute Pence for carrying out his duties, and Trump did nothing to try and stop them.

[activeStick]

I imagine Pence would if he were still planning to run for any position in public office.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I should hope not. Trump cultists were prepared to publicly execute Pence for carrying out his duties, and Trump did nothing to try and stop them.

Encouraged and emboldened them to do so. He called him a traitor.

[nfotiu]

Trump can't come up with his bond.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/18/polit...ond/index.html

I assume that means he won't be able to appeal. I wonder how much cash the underwriters wanted access to that he couldn't provide? I doubt it is the whole amount, but don't know much about bonds.

His financial house of cards must be looking pretty ready to collapse about now, which could be fun.

This quote is particularly funny:

“Critical among these challenges is not just the inability and reluctance of the vast majority of sureties to underwrite a bond for this unprecedented sum, but, even more significantly, the unwillingness of every surety bond provider approached by Defendants to accept real estate as collateral,” Trump’s attorneys wrote.

They are basically admitting that the bond providers don't think his properties are worth anywhere near what he claims and are probably fully leveraged, which coincidentally is the whole basis of this lawsuit!

[Dion]

Originally Posted by nfotiu

Trump can't come up with his bond.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/18/polit...ond/index.html

I assume that means he won't be able to appeal. I wonder how much cash the underwriters wanted access to that he couldn't provide? I doubt it is the whole amount, but don't know much about bonds.

His financial house of cards must be looking pretty ready to collapse about now, which could be fun.

This quote is particularly funny:

“Critical among these challenges is not just the inability and reluctance of the vast majority of sureties to underwrite a bond for this unprecedented sum, but, even more significantly, the unwillingness of every surety bond provider approached by Defendants to accept real estate as collateral,” Trump’s attorneys wrote.

They are basically admitting that the bond providers don't think his properties are worth anywhere near what he claims and are probably fully leveraged, which coincidentally is the whole basis of this lawsuit!

I found these quotes quite interesting

While Garten said Trump is "financially stable" and maintains "substantial assets," the magnitude of the judgment would require him to use his real estate as collateral for the bond. So far, according to Garten's affirmation, no surety bond provider approached by Trump is willing to accept real estate as collateral, including Chubb, the insurance giant underwriting Trump's $91.6 million bond to cover the $83 million judgment in the E. Jean Carroll defamation case, plus interest.

The final option would be a “fire sale” of his properties, including office towers, golf courses and resorts, but the brief argues this “would inevitably result in massive, irrecoverable losses.”

If, however, the appellate court does not intervene, Trump will be required to pay the full judgment on March 25.

https://ca.yahoo.com/news/trump-face...144740273.html

[nfotiu]

Originally Posted by Dion

I found these quotes quite interesting





https://ca.yahoo.com/news/trump-face...144740273.html

I'd bet against him being able to raise 500 million in a fire sale. I imagine he has very little equity in anything if forced to value them at the price people are willing to pay.

Even giving Trump the benefit of the doubt that he maybe has an average of 20% equity in what he can really get for his properties, that optimistically ends up about 10% after fees to sell it.

Basically, he'd need to sell 5 billion worth of property quickly with even a chance to raised 500 million.

The problem is I doubt he can get close to 5 billion for the whole of his holdings, and if somehow he could, that's not going to be a quick process. He's bled his SuperPACs dry paying legal fees, so unless something happens before March 25th, he either needs some Russians and Saudis to bail him out, or they're going to start siezing his stuff.

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by nfotiu

he either needs some Russians and Saudis to bail him out, or they're going to start siezing his stuff.

Putin enters the chat

[Coach]

While I will enjoy watching the feds seize Trump's assets, its still something he can spin to his band of merry morons as the "deep state" attacking him.

"Look they're taking all my stuff so I can't run! They're taking YOUR stuff."

[Fuzz]

Has he run out of stupid people to grift from?

[Wastedyouth]

Certainly, they have him now!

[Red Slinger]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Has he run out of stupid people to grift from?

That's one of our few truly renewable resources.

[nfotiu]

Originally Posted by Red Slinger

That's one of our few truly renewable resources.

I don't know. He may have bled his core demographic dry. They were good when bills were in the millions. Now that they are approaching 10 digits, he needs to find some wealthier targets.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by nfotiu

I don't know. He may have bled his core demographic dry. They were good when bills were in the millions. Now that they are approaching 10 digits, he needs to find some wealthier targets.

Maybe he asks his buddy Putin for a loan