09-19-2023, 03:16 PM
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#12601
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
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Originally Posted by Itse
It's still a noticeable event even in a war this big, especially these days when Ukraine isn't losing a lot of civilians generally speaking. People in Ukraine want to know what happened, and because it's kind of a slow time for news from Ukraine, it becomes international news fairly easily. "What exactly happened" is still news, even if everyone knows who's to blame.
You also can't automatically just rule out things like recklessness or incompetence from the Ukrainian side, or not following some protocol or whatnot. Just because Russia is at fault generally doesn't mean that there can't be some fault in what the people operating the system were doing. People still need to try avoid creating accidents, even if some amount of accidents is inevitable.
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Frankly I think Ukraine has done pretty good with the munitions.
There haven't been too many examples of this.
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09-19-2023, 03:19 PM
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#12602
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
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That's a pretty significant development, if accurate.
Although it wouldn't shock me if this was a western force using Ukraine as a cover, possibly with Ukraine's consent. It wouldn't even shock me if it was Putins men using Ukraine as a cover.
Interesting in any case.
Last edited by Itse; 09-19-2023 at 03:22 PM.
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09-19-2023, 06:40 PM
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#12603
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Crash and Bang Winger
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I cant imagine it being Ukraine. They have bigger fish to fry at home. Why bother with Wagner who have already withdrawn from Ukraine.
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09-19-2023, 08:33 PM
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#12604
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: back in the 403
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Totally missed the Kadyrov news over the weekend, that guy is the devil himself. Fred Durst-looking ass can wake up in hell.
Last edited by Sainters7; 09-19-2023 at 11:19 PM.
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09-20-2023, 02:51 AM
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#12605
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by timun
Buks are surface-to-air missiles capable of being used for missile defence, but also just against regular ol' anti-aircraft.
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They're also good against boeing 777's too, #### Russia
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09-20-2023, 02:59 AM
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#12606
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: east van
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mivdo
I cant imagine it being Ukraine. They have bigger fish to fry at home. Why bother with Wagner who have already withdrawn from Ukraine.
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well it achieves two things for Ukraine, it sends a message to Russia that Ukraine will aid their enemies all over the world making Russia's foreign aims significantly more risky while at the same time sending a message to the west that they are a very useful ally that should be funded and supplied, very smart move by Ukraine
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09-20-2023, 08:06 AM
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#12607
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First Line Centre
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Looks like Ukraine hit Russia's Black Sea fleet in Sevastopol again this morning. No news yet on the damage or what was hit outside of a video of a large black plume of smoke.
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09-20-2023, 12:52 PM
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#12608
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Salmon with Arms
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Firebot
Looks like Ukraine hit Russia's Black Sea fleet in Sevastopol again this morning. No news yet on the damage or what was hit outside of a video of a large black plume of smoke.
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Sounds like it was an airport?
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09-20-2023, 02:06 PM
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#12609
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist
Sounds like it was an airport?
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Apparently it was the Black Sea Fleet Command Center that was hit. Of particular note is that the attack happened in the day, in the morning. Most attacks are done at night. It must mean the situation must be truly dire for Crimea's air defense.
Rybar of course claiming a mass attack of 11 Su-24M bombers (does Ukraine even have this many remaining, a Russian failure in itself?) and 8 storm missiles, and 5 got shot down with the 3 hitting some former abandoned military base.
https://twitter.com/user/status/1704503005343604951
The tough questions from the Russian side get asked, such as how Odessa still has an operational airfield.
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09-21-2023, 11:01 AM
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#12611
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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09-21-2023, 11:20 AM
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#12612
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Franchise Player
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Good to see Big Z showing balls and choosing to be on the right side of history. Disgusted, but not at all surprised, there is a large contingent of russian players allowed to play in the NHL who support this war, both in private and public. Glaring at you OV...
Blaming 8 years worth of shelling on Ukraine...Christ. ####ing idiots.
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09-21-2023, 11:48 AM
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#12613
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Scoring Winger
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I didn't see this, so forgive me if it has been posted already.
Poland to halt Supply of Weapons to Ukraine
Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki told local media that Poland needs to focus on building up its own arms.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/...-dispute-grows
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09-21-2023, 01:04 PM
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#12614
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Franchise Player
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I wonder if publicly opposing the war jeopardizes these Russians and family members still in that country? What if these Russians want to return home one day?
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09-21-2023, 05:07 PM
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#12615
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Paradise
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MoneyGuy
I wonder if publicly opposing the war jeopardizes these Russians and family members still in that country? What if these Russians want to return home one day?
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Of course it does. Thats why not many players ( that ones that are opposed to the war) are doing it.
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09-22-2023, 02:43 AM
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#12616
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Franchise Player
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I thought Big Z openly criticized the war months ago?
He is a great man and he is an asset for our team. Extend him.
I really hope he outs the idiot russians in the NHL.
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09-22-2023, 06:42 AM
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#12617
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Commie Referee
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Small town, B.C.
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09-22-2023, 08:11 AM
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#12618
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan
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A good start to the day
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Corporal Jean-Marc H. BECHARD, 6 Aug 1993
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Originally Posted by Sliver
Just ignore me...I'm in a mood today.
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09-22-2023, 09:26 AM
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#12619
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Toronto
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Playfair
I didn't see this, so forgive me if it has been posted already.
Poland to halt Supply of Weapons to Ukraine
Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki told local media that Poland needs to focus on building up its own arms.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/...-dispute-grows |
Yikes, this seems like really bad news for Ukraine, no? I've stopped following this invasion for a while now, but wasn't Poland's support a pretty big win for them? I wonder what else brought about this shift from Poland's side, aside from the grain dispute?
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09-22-2023, 09:49 AM
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#12620
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Farm Team Player
Join Date: Dec 2020
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Quote:
Originally Posted by activeStick
Yikes, this seems like really bad news for Ukraine, no? I've stopped following this invasion for a while now, but wasn't Poland's support a pretty big win for them? I wonder what else brought about this shift from Poland's side, aside from the grain dispute?
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I don't know how to embed tweets.
https://twitter.com/clashreport/stat...5Es1_&ref_url=
"Bloomberg, citing Polish government source:
Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki's words that Warsaw would no longer supply any weapons to Ukraine were misinterpreted and misunderstood."
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