Who do you WANT the Flames Starting Goalie To Be Next Season [*NEW POLL 12·05·17]

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by rohara66

...If Bishop pushed for a 5 or 6 year deal then who knows what you do. Elliot for 2 more years or maybe Fleury for the 2 years left on his contract and then pray Gillies is ready?

I think that if Bishop is priced out of the market for Calgary, then a trade for MA Fleury could be a solid alternative that would not cost a fortune in assets.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by bax

I know everyone is still really down on Elliot after the playoffs, but you have to remember he also stood on his head for two months.

What about bringing him back and trading for one of Darling/Korpisalo/another young guy and rolling with a 50/50 split? Play whoever is the hot hand at the time?

Originally Posted by kukkudo

Bishop is going to be on the Flames radar. I see him signing 3 year deal approx 3.5-4 Million.

I can't see him coming that cheap

[rohara66]

Bishop might have struggled this past year (which might cost him some term) but he's going to still get $5-6m plus! Not a chance he signs for $3-4m per.

I'd be happy with a 4 x $5.5m or 3 x $6m but doubt that gets it done.

[kukkudo]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I can't see him coming that cheap

I don't see a team offering Bishop 5.5 plus. But we shall see Treliving can work some magic.

[saXon]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

The goaltending market is soft. Anything more than a 2nd round pick and prospect is major overpayment for Mrazek. Treliving hangs up the phone before Holland can finish saying "Sam Bennett". I would expect Mrazek + one of their top organizational prospects for Backlund.

Mmkay, because Gillies is only worth a 2nd. Makes sense

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by Regorium

Where do our young goalies slot in?

Developing.

You don't build a team with your fingers crossed hoping holes get filled by prospects, definitely not at the goalie position. I think going after a lesser quality goalie than what else is out there just because you can get them on a shorter term, based off the hope that a prospect can take that spot in a few years, is just silly. Go after the best guy available, and if Gillies or Parsons is pushing for the net in 2-3 years you re-evaluate from there.

For the sake of arguement, say Gillies is ready to be a full time starter in 2 years but you still have Bishop signed for another 3. So what? You try and move one of them. Gillies would still be an RFA so it's not like you'd worry about him walking away to find a crease to play in. Having a younger goalie pushing a veteran vezina nominee out of the crease would be an absolutely fantastic problem to have, don't shoot yourself in the foot now trying to avoid it

[Mister Yamoto]

Goalies are only as good as their last game. Only a few weeks ago people were calling for the Flames to back up the Brinks truck for Elliot.

One or two year deal max. And then a multi year extension if he works out. If the Flames handcuff themselves to another C+ goalie long term it could be the worst move they have ever made.

Myself, I'd like to see the Flames go for one of the younger guys. Talbot, Jones or Andersson type. Even if the cost is the 2017 1st.

[Maritime Q-Scout]

The goalie I want as our starter next year is the starter for the 2018 Stanley Cup Champions. I'm not fussy about how he spells his name.

[Bunk]

A Darling-Grubauer tandem. Let 'em fight it out for true #1

Take a chance on two backups for a 2-3 yr contract, and hope at least one becomes a starter.

[StrykerSteve]

Tyler F'ing Parsons. This guy has done nothing but show he's a beast in everything he's done the past few years. I don't need years upon years of seasoning in the minors, where the likelihood of something derailing his progress his high, if history has taught us anything. He's a fantastic goalie, throw him in there, give him a chance and see how he does. If (when) he excels, he takes this team to the level of a true contender on an ELC. Stop burning the most affordable years on the AHL.

[Macindoc]

Bishop will be too expensive in AAV and term. Fleury should be reasonable to acquire given that the Pens have to move him or lose Murray. And the term is about right with respect to the development of the prospects in our system. Hopefully, Gillies can back him up next two years (not something I would want to try if we picked up Darling), and in two years, Parsons could be ready to make the jump to the main club.

[TheScorpion]

Of the guys on the list, it's easily Raanta.

[mikephoen]

Originally Posted by saXon

Mmkay, because Gillies is only worth a 2nd. Makes sense

I'd take a 2nd rounder for Gillies in a second. Take a look at the list of goalies in the poll, you can get Vezina nominees, Stanley Cup winners and proven NHL goalies for free or very close to free. Goalies are cheap to acquire most years, and this year because of the expansion rules, they're cheaper than ever before.

I think you're extremely overvaluing the cost of goalies this year.

[ComixZone]

Don't cheap out on the goaltending position. Trying to fix the problem with budget-conscious solutions gets you bottom to middle of the pack goaltending - which is what we had last season and cost us dearly.

I just don't understand the desire here for a guy Darling. What are you hoping for in that position? For him to beat the odds and be a Tim Thomas level goalie? What's your end game, what's your hope? Whatever it is, it's incredibly unlikely.

To watch our season go up in flames the way it did...to watch Dallas go down the way they did, or how about watching Philly struggle for so many years...there's a lesson to be had here. Don't cheap out on the goalie position, you can't win anything worthwhile without it.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by saXon

Mmkay, because Gillies is only worth a 2nd. Makes sense

What do you think Gillies is worth, and how do you arrive at that value?

The fact of the matter is that goalies just do not command much in return when they are traded. That is a FACT.

Based on recent transactions I don't see Gillies garnering more than a third round pick in a trade—he might return a second, but I would be surprised.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by StrykerSteve

Tyler F'ing Parsons. This guy has done nothing but show he's a beast in everything he's done the past few years. I don't need years upon years of seasoning in the minors, where the likelihood of something derailing his progress his high, if history has taught us anything. He's a fantastic goalie, throw him in there, give him a chance and see how he does. If (when) he excels, he takes this team to the level of a true contender on an ELC. Stop burning the most affordable years on the AHL.

The vast majority of successful, big game NHL goalies end up spending a year or two starting games in the AHL before ever seeing time in the Big League. Why would Parsons warrant an exception?

[Kipper_3434]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

The vast majority of successful, big game NHL goalies end up spending a year or two starting games in the AHL before ever seeing time in the Big League. Why would Parsons warrant an exception?

Because he is incredible.

[StrykerSteve]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

The vast majority of successful, big game NHL goalies end up spending a year or two starting games in the AHL before ever seeing time in the Big League. Why would Parsons warrant an exception?

Most do that because teams already have a goalie under contract. I'm not opposed to it either way, just a strong believer in giving him a legit shot. If he comes into camp and outplays the competition, don't be afraid to roll with him. Same goes for any of the other guys, but I'm just a big fan of Parsons' style.

I'd hate to see them go "big game hunting" without looking at what they already have. I'm hoping the Murray example is one that entices teams to start looking at younger guys for the position. The league has really trended younger and younger, but goalie's continue to be the outlier that regard.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

I wonder how the Flames see Elliott. Obviously a lot of the fan base wouldn't like it but he may come cheaper if he's moved here and doesn't want to move again right away. I wouldn't mind a 1 year show me contract on the cheap. Depends on what other offers he gets.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by StrykerSteve

Tyler F'ing Parsons. This guy has done nothing but show he's a beast in everything he's done the past few years. I don't need years upon years of seasoning in the minors, where the likelihood of something derailing his progress his high, if history has taught us anything. He's a fantastic goalie, throw him in there, give him a chance and see how he does. If (when) he excels, he takes this team to the level of a true contender on an ELC. Stop burning the most affordable years on the AHL.

Just know that what I'm about to say next doesn't reflect the amount of respect I have for you as a poster.

This is a terrible ####ing idea.

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