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Old 05-04-2023, 03:08 PM   #11041
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I’m aware of that, but those were all ‘clandestine’, though like most Russian actions completely obvious. The potential is to escalate to open decapitation attempts.

If someone ‘attacks your capital’ in an ‘obvious assassination attempt’ the ‘natural reaction’ would be to retaliate in kind. (quotes indicate propaganda BS)
Seems like they've tried to send kill squads in directly to Kiev on several occasions.

Seems to result in the death or capture of the kill squad with no result. And they've bombed all major Ukrainian cities already much more heavily than the firecracker that hit the Kremlin.

I don't think there's anything to fear here.
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Old 05-04-2023, 03:16 PM   #11042
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Seems like they've tried to send kill squads in directly to Kiev on several occasions.

Seems to result in the death or capture of the kill squad with no result. And they've bombed all major Ukrainian cities already much more heavily than the firecracker that hit the Kremlin.

I don't think there's anything to fear here.

Yes to all that, but they haven’t made a direct military (e.g. missile or drone) attack on government or presidential offices. They may use this lame false flag attempt to justify levelling the Ukrainian parliament buildings (or equivalent), Zelenskyy’s residence, etc.

Early in the war they specifically said they were refraining from such actions, even though the hit squads etc. were public knowledge, I.e. in typical fashion they were saying one thing and doing another. Since those hit attempts failed they may go for a more direct decapitation strike, something that while ‘legal’ in war is a major escalation that the international community would be concerned about. The false flag gives them theoretical, though shambolic, cover.
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Old 05-04-2023, 08:20 PM   #11043
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Don't know one way or the other, but I would think that if they wanted to hit the Kremlin, they would hit them a hell of a lot harder than that.
Maybe it was the Ukrainian version of the Doolittle Raid.
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Old 05-04-2023, 11:56 PM   #11044
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A Russian delegate in Ankara tried to remove a Ukrainian flag.

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Old 05-05-2023, 03:53 AM   #11045
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Smokescreen?

Wagner fighters will ‘leave Bakhmut’ on May 10

“I declare on behalf of the Wagner fighters, on behalf of the Wagner command, that on May 10, 2023, we are obliged to transfer positions in the settlement of Bakhmut to units of the Defense Ministry and withdraw the remains of Wagner to logistics camps to lick our wounds,” Prigozhin said.

Wagner fighters will ‘leave Bakhmut’ on May 10
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Old 05-05-2023, 04:45 AM   #11046
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Yes to all that, but they haven’t made a direct military (e.g. missile or drone) attack on government or presidential offices. They may use this lame false flag attempt to justify levelling the Ukrainian parliament buildings (or equivalent), Zelenskyy’s residence, etc.

Early in the war they specifically said they were refraining from such actions, even though the hit squads etc. were public knowledge, I.e. in typical fashion they were saying one thing and doing another. Since those hit attempts failed they may go for a more direct decapitation strike, something that while ‘legal’ in war is a major escalation that the international community would be concerned about. The false flag gives them theoretical, though shambolic, cover.
I'm pretty sure they have.

Ukraine however has a lot of air defense, and most Russian weapons aren't that accurate.
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Old 05-06-2023, 03:45 AM   #11047
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https://twitter.com/user/status/1654757671487291392

Wonder what this meeting is about?
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Old 05-06-2023, 10:39 AM   #11048
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My wild guess is they are meeting about the war.
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Old 05-06-2023, 03:03 PM   #11049
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What war? This is merely a special military operation.
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Old 05-06-2023, 03:11 PM   #11050
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What war? This is merely a special military operation.
It's not a war, it's not a special military operation, it's a mad mans invasion and he needs to die.
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Old 05-06-2023, 11:46 PM   #11051
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Well, let's be honest here. This war has been a financial and business boom for a lot of companies across the board. The post war rebuilding efforts, led by the US and the post war military spending and security guarantee's will provide a strong level of income and government support to a lot of firms.

Maybe we can take the positive and think of one of the largest money managers in the world is showing up now, they gearing up for investment, funding and market opportunities in the very near future? Better than a long term, expensive, drawn out war.
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Ukrainian band Okean Elzy was at Mac Hall last night - big turn out by the local Ukrainian community. I would have liked to have seen that.

https://www.machallconcerts.com/event/3050/

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Okean Elzy is one of the most popular Ukrainian rock bands, known far beyond the borders of their native country.
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Well, let's be honest here. This war has been a financial and business boom for a lot of companies across the board. The post war rebuilding efforts, led by the US and the post war military spending and security guarantee's will provide a strong level of income and government support to a lot of firms.

Maybe we can take the positive and think of one of the largest money managers in the world is showing up now, they gearing up for investment, funding and market opportunities in the very near future? Better than a long term, expensive, drawn out war.
Don't introduce logic to Yoho's "just asking questions" posts
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Old 05-07-2023, 10:14 AM   #11054
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Don't introduce logic to Yoho's "just asking questions" posts
At least he didn't quote Yoho, and that's why I thanked the post.
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Old 05-08-2023, 07:30 AM   #11055
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Reality sinking in.

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Looks like someone's going to have an unfortunate accident from a window.
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Whats the context behind this clip? Was this part of an interview or just an oligarch that decided to vent a bit?
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I never thought I'd say this, but it's kinda refreshing to see an oligarch billionaire in a hoodie instead of some pretentious ass Armani business suit.

I do like to see rich people worry though, so #### this guy.
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Old 05-08-2023, 09:13 AM   #11059
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Today is going to be rough I'm assuming. Big ramp up to May 9th from the russian side..

After tomorrow I think the tides turn, and a bunch of russians start running / dressing as civilians
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Old 05-08-2023, 11:04 AM   #11060
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This guy is a bit of a wacko

-If Russia loses this war then Ukraine will kill all Russians.
-He cites a massacre in the 40's as what will happen and says this time it will be much worse "child's play". Civilians were tortured, raped, dismembered and killed. Gee, why does that sound familiar?
-Russians will be killed whether or not they support Putin, everyone will die!!
-The Ukrainians are "bombing non-stop", "Two trains go off the tracks on a daily basis", "They hit the Kremlin".
-Ukraine is now going to use mass terror and hostage taking in Russia!!
-"The whole world is against us"

With the criticism of the military, government and diplomats it's unlikely that Putin gave this the green light but it sure seems designed to rally the people that 'we need to win this war' doesn't it?
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