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Old 07-30-2010, 02:47 PM   #1021
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I was completely under the impression that the problem was entirely in low service areas, and clearly that is not the case.
That was Apple's response to the problem, a somewhat wise one at that. Initially it was believable because AT&T does indeed have horrible service in many areas.
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Old 07-30-2010, 02:48 PM   #1022
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And the response was a lie.

Granted, AT&T does have horrible service.
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Old 07-30-2010, 02:49 PM   #1023
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Anyone been to a Bell store today?

Need to get a sim card and was thinking of heading to the cross iron mills location, but if it's a zoo I'll skip it.
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Old 07-30-2010, 02:51 PM   #1024
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Also... anybody "amazed" by the speed of this phone has obviously never used a smartphone other than the iPhone before.
Your Blackberry Pearl is probably better.
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Old 07-30-2010, 02:52 PM   #1025
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Unless that phone is not displaying the correct reception to begin with.

Either way, the real test (like it should have been from the beginning) is whether the phone drops calls or not. And they're saying what, only 1 per 100 more than the 3GS? So be it.

Until the day the newest Android phones are released within a reasonable timeframe to Canada, these things will continue to sell like hotcakes. One day people will see the light.
Android phones will be obsolete by the end of 2010.
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Old 07-30-2010, 02:54 PM   #1026
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Your Blackberry Pearl is probably better.
I use an HTC HD2 as well as a 3GS. I cannot live without TweetDeck on the iPhone and it is not yet on Android. I also much prefer podcasts on the iPhone to any other device.
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Old 07-30-2010, 02:55 PM   #1027
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I use an HTC HD2 as well as a 3GS. I cannot live without TweetDeck on the iPhone and it is not yet on Android. I also much prefer podcasts on the iPhone to any other device.
Seems like a PITA to me to be rocking two phones.
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Old 07-30-2010, 02:56 PM   #1028
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Anybody know of anywhere with stock left of 32gig iPhone 4s or is it a lost cause for today?
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Old 07-30-2010, 03:00 PM   #1029
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Seems like a PITA to me to be rocking two phones.
It's not a daily or even weekly switch. Only started back up using my HD2 because of the great progress with the Android build, hadn't used it for a couple months prior.
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Old 07-30-2010, 03:05 PM   #1030
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Same here, what location did you go to? I was the 3rd to last person to get it. I was at shawnessy. they said they got 32 units.
Ha! I was at Shawnessy too. I got the 6th or 7th last phone. I was hope they can unmelt Rogers servers and get our phones working. I tried to phone them and inquire, but no one answered.
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Old 07-30-2010, 03:07 PM   #1031
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Anybody know of anywhere with stock left of ANY iPhone 4s or is it a lost cause for today?
Anyone? I was 5th in line up when a store had 4, and 6th in line when a store had 5...
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Old 07-30-2010, 03:07 PM   #1032
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Did anyone happen to ask when stores might get another shipment?
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Old 07-30-2010, 03:15 PM   #1033
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Kinda puts a dent into the argument that the problem only happens in low service areas.

lol.
Oh look, I can't get my phone to move from 5 bars no matter how I hold it.

Kinda puts a dent into the argument that the problem happens everywhere.

It's simple. The bars represent signal strength. Holding the phone in the death grip will knock 10-20 dB off your signal strength. If you are starting at -60, you are fine. If you are starting at -110, you'll drop the call.
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Old 07-30-2010, 03:17 PM   #1034
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Did anyone happen to ask when stores might get another shipment?
The girl working at the Rogers store said they had no idea. She said they didn't get their stock for today till this morning.
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Old 07-30-2010, 03:19 PM   #1035
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Oh look, I can't get my phone to move from 5 bars no matter how I hold it.

Kinda puts a dent into the argument that the problem happens everywhere.

It's simple. The bars represent signal strength. Holding the phone in the death grip will knock 10-20 dB off your signal strength. If you are starting at -60, you are fine. If you are starting at -110, you'll drop the call.
I think it would be interesting if the people making these videos would make phone calls while performing the death grip. The number of bars isn't as tangible as a dropped call.
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Old 07-30-2010, 03:23 PM   #1036
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Yup, the anandtech article I posted said that while the signal drop for the iPhone 4 in a "death grip" is greater than for the other phones they tested (the other phones still went down), the iPhone 4 was better at retaining calls in lower signal strength circumstances than the previous iPhones.
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Got my phone but the sim hasnt activated yet..
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Android phones will be obsolete by the end of 2010.
Just wondering why you say this?
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Old 07-30-2010, 04:05 PM   #1039
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Just wondering why you say this?
Because thats what apple fanboys want.
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Because thats what apple fanboys want.
Android's the best thing to happen to Apple fanboys in recent memory.
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