[Rumour] Jakub Nakladal: "Somthing Looming" UPD: One-way deal is the only option

[lazypucker]

I really think that the Flames is leaving a 6/7 D spot for Wotherspoon or Kylington, rather than signing a Nakadal/Russell/Seidenberg/whoever

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by lazypucker

I really think that the Flames is leaving a 6/7 D spot for Wotherspoon or Kylington, rather than signing a Nakadal/Russell/Seidenberg/whoever

Yeah if Smid can't play, I'd say it would be between Wotherspoon and Kulak though. No need to rush Kylington.

[killer_carlson]

Originally Posted by Vulcan

Yeah if Smid can't play, I'd say it would be between Wotherspoon and Kulak though. No need to rush Kylington.

And Morrison

[simmer2]

Originally Posted by lazypucker

I really think that the Flames is leaving a 6/7 D spot for Wotherspoon or Kylington, rather than signing a Nakadal/Russell/Seidenberg/whoever

Wotherspoon is just not an NHL calibre dman. Too slow overall. Kulak is good but we need more physical dmen at the 6 role than we do a puck mover. Let Kulak be an injury fill-in.

Nakladal is a very good fit for a 6/7 dman on a 2yr contract.

[thymebalm]

Originally Posted by simmer2

Wotherspoon is just not an NHL calibre dman. Too slow overall. Kulak is good but we need more physical dmen at the 6 role than we do a puck mover. Let Kulak be an injury fill-in.

Nakladal is a very good fit for a 6/7 dman on a 2yr contract.

Witherspoon is more fleet of foot than Nakladal from my viewings.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by simmer2

Wotherspoon is just not an NHL calibre dman. Too slow overall. Kulak is good but we need more physical dmen at the 6 role than we do a puck mover.

Myth. If players are stopping the other team for scoring and helping your team score, it doesn't matter if they're doing it physically or with their stick. If anything, a team whose style/puck moving ability needs to completely change when a certain pair is on the ice is more prone to having that pair be exploited (see: Dillon-Polak in last year's SCF getting targeted).

Now whether Kulak is helping stop the other team from scoring and helping our team score is still a question mark. But he should not be prevented from making the roster for "being a puck mover when we need a physical Dman". All defensemen should be able to move the puck first and foremost. If they're also able to be physical (like Giordano) it's better, but if they're only physical (like Engelland) you are going to have a hole waiting to be exploited.

Now if you want to get more specific, like "we need a penalty kill specialist" that's different. It's true penalty killers don't need to be able to move the puck particularily well. But it's also true that you don't need to be overly physical to be a good penalty killer either.

[simmer2]

Originally Posted by thymebalm

Witherspoon is more fleet of foot than Nakladal from my viewings.

Maybe it's Nakladals positioning then....he just performs better than Wotherspoon.

As much as I want a young dman like Wotherspoon to succeed, I have always come away disappointed whenever I see him play.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

Myth. If players are stopping the other team for scoring and helping your team score, it doesn't matter if they're doing it physically or with their stick. If anything, a team whose style/puck moving ability needs to completely change when a certain pair is on the ice is more prone to having that pair be exploited (see: Dillon-Polak in last year's SCF getting targeted).

Now whether Kulak is helping stop the other team from scoring and helping our team score is still a question mark. But he should not be prevented from making the roster for "being a puck mover when we need a physical Dman". All defensemen should be able to move the puck first and foremost. If they're also able to be physical (like Giordano) it's better, but if they're only physical (like Engelland) you are going to have a hole waiting to be exploited.

Now if you want to get more specific, like "we need a penalty kill specialist" that's different. It's true penalty killers don't need to be able to move the puck particularily well. But it's also true that you don't need to be overly physical to be a good penalty killer either.

No, but it helps a LOT. Clearing the front of the net is probably the biggest part of the power play, and guys like Brodie and Russell are never going to be very effective at that. Tying up a stick is all you could really expect those guys to do against guys like Tarasenko and Lucic.

[Bandwagon In Flames]

My wild theory right now is that Treliving has been desperately trying to move Wideman, but all the GMs know he's in a tight spot to sign Gaudreau right now. They feel like they've got all the leverage in a trade with Treliving for once in their life and are taking advantage of it.

Something will give sooner or later, and as soon as Gaudreau is signed, we'll see Wideman traded with 2.5 retained and a 3rd round pick or B-prospect.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

No, but it helps a LOT. Clearing the front of the net is probably the biggest part of the power play, and guys like Brodie and Russell are never going to be very effective at that. Tying up a stick is all you could really expect those guys to do against guys like Tarasenko and Lucic.

There's a lot that goes into PKing, we're not disagreeing here. And maybe a special teams specialist 3rd pair that gets extremely sheltered at even strength is the right choice. But that shouldn't be based around physicality and shoving gloves into faces. It should be based around.... whether a player is a very good penalty killer and someone you have confidence in that player to be on a PK against Tarasenko and Lucic.

[Five-hole]

Honestly I'm very surprised how gung-ho a lot of people are about resigning a 29-year old bottom-pairing defenceman. I feel like this is exactly the kind of move most people hate, as it takes away a spot from someone younger who could win it.

I feel like if this guy had spent his career toiling for Carolina rather than in the Czech league, nobody would be clamoring to re-sign him.

[Bandwagon In Flames]

Originally Posted by Five-hole

Honestly I'm very surprised how gung-ho a lot of people are about resigning a 29-year old bottom-pairing defenceman. I feel like this is exactly the kind of move most people hate, as it takes away a spot from someone younger who could win it.

I feel like if this guy had spent his career toiling for Carolina rather than in the Czech league, nobody would be clamoring to re-sign him.

If he spent his career toiling for Carolina he'd have a lot more exposure around the NHL and wouldn't be willing to sign a league minimum deal at 29 if he was worth more. Unknown quantities are always more intriguing because you can get good value out of them.

By the way, Treliving is also gung ho about re-signing Nakladal or else he wouldn't still be waiting for a contract from us.