Just a friendly reminder that insomnia can be a symptom of an underlying medical condition - if it's something that is chronic or ongoing, you should see a doctor.
For those who have trouble falling asleep, I pretty much fall asleep to this every night. PS it sounds 100 times better with earphones in. HD sound, if that makes any sense:
There's a ton of em on youtube but I find most of em are terrible and fake sounding, this one's the real deal. Who knew thunder could be relaxing? ...too bad this works way better for me when I'm falling asleep the first time than at 3am when I'm trying to fall back asleep.
did you pay $44 for this?
That seems way too expensive. I don't care how hot she looks on her website.
That seems way too expensive. I don't care how hot she looks on her website.
Huh? Isn't it just a free DL? I'd just fall asleep to this actual 10 minute preview, never DL'd anything. Actually this one's old news now, its not long enough. I've got a new love in my life. Rain, meet tent.
P.S. If it seems a bit too loud, fast forward to about the 20min mark when he pulls the camcorder more inside. Putting Sainters to bed since mid-November 2011.
Got a question for you insomniacs - what does it feel like to have insomnia? I know the feeling of wanting to out of all rational thought to go to sleep but not being able to and just getting up after a few hours of tossing in frustration...
But eventually exhaustion will take over and I will just fall asleep nomatter how much willpower I put against it.
What is it like as an insomniac? Could you just stay awake for days at a time without REM sleep? How does it affect your daily functioning?
I'm about to pull an all-nighter right now for an exam but would definitely rather be sleeping right now and could pass out right away if I wanted to.
I've gone days without sleep due to anxiety issues. It feels like you are constantly being kept awake by your mind. Like you've forgotten how to sleep. You're so on-guard and anxious about it that it consumes every waking thought. Every time you drift off, your mind brings you back. Once the second day hits, you are basically incapable of thinking at all. Normal conversation is a major problem. You can't enjoy anything or feel many emotions beyond complete frustration.
It's really horrible. To the point that sleeping pills have really saved my sanity at couple points in my life. I have to laugh at people that say don't take them. They have been at times the only thing keeping me a functioning member of society.
On the bright side, when you do finally conk out. It's the greatest relief in the world. I don't have it anymore. I sleep great most nights. I just have to control it really well and put sleep paramount to pretty much everything.
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I've gone days without sleep due to anxiety issues. It feels like you are constantly being kept awake by your mind. Like you've forgotten how to sleep. You're so on-guard and anxious about it that it consumes every waking thought. Every time you drift off, your mind brings you back. Once the second day hits, you are basically incapable of thinking at all. Normal conversation is a major problem. You can't enjoy anything or feel many emotions beyond complete frustration.
It's really horrible. To the point that sleeping pills have really saved my sanity at couple points in my life. I have to laugh at people that say don't take them. They have been at times the only thing keeping me a functioning member of society.
On the bright side, when you do finally conk out. It's the greatest relief in the world. I don't have it anymore. I sleep great most nights. I just have to control it really well and put sleep paramount to pretty much everything.
Yep, pretty much sums it up for me. That hollow stomach, uber fatigued feeling, 15 second time delay effect that comes from a night or two of sleeplessness is so common I barely notice it any more.
When I go through bad stretches, I think the quote by Ed Norton at the start of Fight Club sums it up well: "When you have insomnia, you're never really asleep, and you're never really awake".
That's great!
For me insomnia stems from a spine injury. I'm left with neurological pain in my legs that just doesn't go away. I'll be in a dream-like state, unable to think straight, slide into bed as tired as ####, practically asleep before my head hit the pillow, then the burning/freezing/electrocution pain in my legs just doesn't let me go to sleep. So I watch TV or take my dogs out or go online or play games.
Imagine standing up to your thighs in a barrel of ice water for 45 minutes, or imaginbg your legs in an 120 degree oven. That's what my legs would feel like: it feels so hot/cold that it hurts.
The pain in my legs isn't always there, it seems to have a mind of its own, and sometimes it goes into hiding or I'm able to distract myself to the point where it doesn't bother me. I also take medications for this, and they take the edge off the pain, they don't get rid of it.
Sometimes I am just a zombie all day. No emotion, move slow, hard time concentrating, and prone to little details. But I'm pretty good with faking my way through a day of work or school.
As someone said above, your body gets use to it. Five years ago, getting anything less than 7-8 hours meant I wasn't going to be functional the next day.
Now if I get 4-5 hours, it's enough or me. My fiancee knows if I don't wake up when she wakes up, which I usually do, to leave me if there are no firm commitments the next day. Last weekend or the one before I think I got 14 hours of continuous sleep. Funny enough, I didn't feel any more refreshed upon waking.
There are the odd nights when I get 1-2 hours. It's depressing when it's 4:45am and you know you're alarm clock is going to go off in just over an hour. Following those nights, I am pretty slow. I find I get cold easier, and have little patience with people and situations that grind my gears. It's rare when I bark at someone--but they usually deserve it when I do.
Sometimes I have naps or doze off for a few mins, and they just hit me with no notice. Yesterday in Northland mall I was waiting for someone outside of the fabric store in those soft chairs. I was tweeting about something I saw happen at Winners, and the next thing I remember was being poked in the shoulder to wake up, unaware for a half second where I was, who I was with, what time it was, etc., etc. I've done this on my desk, on transit, at parties, in pubs. Luckily not while driving.
For me insomnia stems from a spine injury. I'm left with neurological pain in my legs that just doesn't go away. I'll be in a dream-like state, unable to think straight, slide into bed as tired as ####, practically asleep before my head hit the pillow, then the burning/freezing/electrocution pain in my legs just doesn't let me go to sleep. So I watch TV or take my dogs out or go online or play games.
Imagine standing up to your thighs in a barrel of ice water for 45 minutes, or imaginbg your legs in an 120 degree oven. That's what my legs would feel like: it feels so hot/cold that it hurts.
The pain in my legs isn't always there, it seems to have a mind of its own, and sometimes it goes into hiding or I'm able to distract myself to the point where it doesn't bother me. I also take medications for this, and they take the edge off the pain, they don't get rid of it.
Sometimes I am just a zombie all day. No emotion, move slow, hard time concentrating, and prone to little details. But I'm pretty good with faking my way through a day of work or school.
As someone said above, your body gets use to it. Five years ago, getting anything less than 7-8 hours meant I wasn't going to be functional the next day.
Now if I get 4-5 hours, it's enough or me. My fiancee knows if I don't wake up when she wakes up, which I usually do, to leave me if there are no firm commitments the next day. Last weekend or the one before I think I got 14 hours of continuous sleep. Funny enough, I didn't feel any more refreshed upon waking.
There are the odd nights when I get 1-2 hours. It's depressing when it's 4:45am and you know you're alarm clock is going to go off in just over an hour. Following those nights, I am pretty slow. I find I get cold easier, and have little patience with people and situations that grind my gears. It's rare when I bark at someone--but they usually deserve it when I do.
Sometimes I have naps or doze off for a few mins, and they just hit me with no notice. Yesterday in Northland mall I was waiting for someone outside of the fabric store in those soft chairs. I was tweeting about something I saw happen at Winners, and the next thing I remember was being poked in the shoulder to wake up, unaware for a half second where I was, who I was with, what time it was, etc., etc. I've done this on my desk, on transit, at parties, in pubs. Luckily not while driving.
Lots of interesting things in this thread. Sr. Mints, have you tried gabapentin or amitriptyline or gabapentin? They are both prescription meds, but good efficacy (well, as good as good is in pain management) and kind of a 2 for 1 with you. Gabapentin is a GABA analogue that was developed for epilepsy, but due to it's neurological effects works well for nerve pain AND helps you sleep. Amitriptyline is an old antidepressant that also seems to be an effective neuropathic pain treatment as well as a sedative at much lower doses than we used for depression (kinda make you feel sorry for those who used to use it for depression).
Lots of interesting things in this thread. Sr. Mints, have you tried gabapentin or amitriptyline or gabapentin? They are both prescription meds, but good efficacy (well, as good as good is in pain management) and kind of a 2 for 1 with you. Gabapentin is a GABA analogue that was developed for epilepsy, but due to it's neurological effects works well for nerve pain AND helps you sleep. Amitriptyline is an old antidepressant that also seems to be an effective neuropathic pain treatment as well as a sedative at much lower doses than we used for depression (kinda make you feel sorry for those who used to use it for depression).
Yeah, I take Gabapentin (1800mg daily.) At first it zonked me out, but after a few months I either became immune to those effects or I got use to it.
The other one I take is Nortriptyline (50mg at night.) My doctor keeps telling me that it should help with sleeping, but it honestly hasn't. I began this one about 8 months after the Gabapentin.
I mentioned I take meds for pain which took the edge off, these were the two I was talking about. Sleeping is impossible if I miss a dose or two.
When I inquired about upping the doses of both, my family doctor says I can go way up on both, but my Physiatrist says the benefits would be lost in my case. So I dunno... I'm more inclined to listen to the specialist.
In University I developed a nasty habit for Nyquil. Roommates being loud but have to sleep?...take some Nyquil. Study until 3 after drinking 3 coffees?...drink some Nyquil.
I became hooked on the stuff...couldn't sleep without it. To the point of like a drug addict I was hiding it around the house.
I finally stopped and started working out more, changing my lifestyle and taking Melatonin. I don't get the same symptoms that some of you have described, with the jitters. I find that it tends to put me out.
I will still take Nyquil the odd time (more if I have something associated like a cold or a bad bad headache, but those days are becoming few are far between)
I've often wondered the damage or long-term effects of taking something for sleep...but at the same time, you hear about those who do not get enough sleep, also put themselves at a health risk.
No it's not that. I keep seeing your damn Pizza logo thing and it looks so damn good. That looks like Pizza Hut pan pizza but back in the 90's when it was actually good... God damn I'm hungry.
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No it's not that. I keep seeing your damn Pizza logo thing and it looks so damn good. That looks like Pizza Hut pan pizza but back in the 90's when it was actually good... God damn I'm hungry.
