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Old 10-27-2023, 04:24 PM   #9541
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How tired is the left wing “if you’re this,you vote this” strategy getting?
What percentage of issues do people need to disagree with other people on to be considered part of the other wing?

Is there a chart or something or is it just something that otherwise reasonable people have been bamboozled into believing?

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Old 10-27-2023, 04:28 PM   #9542
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What percentage of issues do people need to disagree with other people on to be considered part of the other wing?

Is there a chart or something or is it just something that otherwise reasonable people have been bamboozled into believing?

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Or vice versa bamboozled into continuing to believe.
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Old 10-27-2023, 05:09 PM   #9543
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So if you live out east you get a carbon tax break on heating your home? But not if you live out west?

Seems fair.
Well duh.

There are no carbon emissions in the east. Just in the west.

So much for the vaunted carbon tax. Now they have just shown that they will remove the tax as needed to win a vote or two.
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If only there was a way to get something more cost effective that was less damaging to the environment to the customers who need it in the eastern part of Canada.
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So if you live out east you get a carbon tax break on heating your home? But not if you live out west?

Seems fair.
I mean, they would undermine your economy and economic opportunities if you lived out west. But not too far west, if you were far enough west they would give you free cocaine and fentanyl.
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If only there was a way to get something more cost effective that was less damaging to the environment to the customers who need it in the eastern part of Canada.
Why, that sounds racist. Or something. Or Harper.

OMG have you seen Harper.
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Why, that sounds racist. Or something. Or Harper.

OMG have you seen Harper.
Funny you mention Harper, I recently found out he's the chairmen of the right wing WEF, the IDU.


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Old 10-27-2023, 06:06 PM   #9548
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I think it's actually a good indication that if the carbon tax is overly punitive in some markets/pollutants, that the government is willing to be flexible. It actually bodes well for Alberta in the future.
No this is pandering.

Heat pumps are a viable alternative and are being subsidized heavily. So people are choosing to make uneconomic choices to keep heating oil. The tax and grants are doing what they should. Make bad choices expenses.

This is a slap in the face to the Carbon Tax. It’s supposed to be punitive. If they wanted to do this correctly increase the rebate for people in homes heated with heating oil don’t tie savings to heating oil use.

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Old 10-27-2023, 06:12 PM   #9549
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Why, that sounds racist. Or something. Or Harper.

OMG have you seen Harper.
Actually, for this one we would probably do some “remember the NEP?” dunk and call on Trudeau Sr. who would have delivered this.
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Old 10-27-2023, 06:22 PM   #9550
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Funny you mention Harper, I recently found out he's the chairmen of the right wing WEF, the IDU.


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Chairman. Wow. Good for him.
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What percentage of issues do people need to disagree with other people on to be considered part of the other wing?

Is there a chart or something or is it just something that otherwise reasonable people have been bamboozled into believing?

Asking for a friend.
You can tell your friend that identity politics is a signature of Trudeau and Biden. For example

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/05/22/p...ack/index.html
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It's hard to fathom why they would scrap the heating oil tax when you consider, as we've been told by the LPC:

We are all going to die if we don't tax carbon.

We get back more in rebates than what is spent in carbon tax.

Super duper strange they would halt it, when our lives and pocketbooks are at risk. The tax that actually makes people richer should be there to protect us!
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We're all going to die if we don't tax carbon? Source?
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Yeah, who woulda thought that the party that doesn't believe in bodily autonomy for women and universal child care would struggle with female voters.
The takeaway from those numbers isn't Conservatives struggling with women, it's Liberals struggling with men.
That's where the big discrepancy presents.
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The takeaway from those numbers isn't Conservatives struggling with women, it's Liberals struggling with men.
That's where the big discrepancy presents.
Lol no doubt liberals are still trailing Conservatives with female vote just not as terribly as men. Quite the victory.

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If the Libs can’t buy their way out of the Atlantic, they are ####ed.


Is Trudeau reading this thread? Giving it the ‘Ol college try.
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The takeaway from those numbers isn't Conservatives struggling with women, it's Liberals struggling with men.
That's where the big discrepancy presents.
I expect Trudeau’s brand plays a big part.

When the whole Jian Ghomeshi thing went down, one of the things reporters investigating his background learned is he had no close male friends. The students he hung around with at university were women, and he was at the forefront of all the progressive causes and student union activism, drawing attention by doing things like standing front and centre at abortion funding rallies and shouting the loudest. He was in Moxy Fruvous, but none of the guys in the band said they were particularly close with him. Even the women who dated Ghomeshi told reporters that they found it odd he had no male friends.

I’m not suggesting Trudeau is an abuser like Ghomeshi. But he gives off the same vibe to men of being ‘that guy’ they knew from school. The one who tried way too hard to appear virtuous and enlightened to women. It comes across as self-serving and insincere.
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Old 10-28-2023, 02:11 PM   #9560
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Or vice versa bamboozled into continuing to believe.
Do you know what vice versa means?
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