Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0

[para transit fellow]

CBC Front Burner podcast recently had an episode on 15 minute cities.

https://www.cbc.ca/listen/cbc-podcas...eads-to-canada

27 minutes - a good overview of:
- How the concept started
- A few criticism of the concept
- How Oxford, England and Oxford County (Oxfordshire) England unfortunately created much confusion on the concept
- how the conspircy theorists have been presenting it

website for the Front burner podcasts
https://www.cbc.ca/listen/cbc-podcasts/209-front-burner

[edslunch]

Originally Posted by calculoso

My only complaint about the 15-minute city: what happens if you don’t have a car (everything is close!) and you lose or change jobs. Not everyone can get a job 15 mins from their house (especially in the GTA where 1 to 2 hour commutes (each way) aren’t unusual.

My answer: suck it up and make a decision. If everything but your job is 15 mins away from your house, you’re in a great spot. Or move. It is still a better goal/situation than job an hour a way, grocery 30 mins in other direction, etc.

I don't think it means literally every job. CNRL isn't going to move to a specific neighbourhood and only hire from there, unless we're going back to company towns.

[timun]

Originally Posted by para transit fellow

CBC Front Burner podcast recently had an episode on 15 minute cities.

https://www.cbc.ca/listen/cbc-podcas...eads-to-canada

27 minutes - a good overview of:
- How the concept started
- A few criticism of the concept
- How Oxford, England and Oxford County (Oxfordshire) England unfortunately created much confusion on the concept
- how the conspircy theorists have been presenting it

website for the Front burner podcasts
https://www.cbc.ca/listen/cbc-podcasts/209-front-burner

CBC? I ain't gonna listen to that government-funded pinko woke Laurentian-elite media!

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[calculoso]

Originally Posted by edslunch

I don't think it means literally every job. CNRL isn't going to move to a specific neighbourhood and only hire from there, unless we're going back to company towns.

Agreed. Some people will get the job and move closer though, and then have another decision if they decide to change jobs/companies. That’s when they’d have to suck it up and live with it…

[Loyal and True]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Theo represents the average UCP supporter.

No, the average UCP supporter simply doesn't trust the NDP to govern, and for sound economic reasons.

Notley and the NDP make a fine Loyal Opposition and I hope they stay there.

The UCP at its worst (Smith or even... Theo) is still less harmful to our economy than the NDP (Notley, Ceci, Phillips, Hoffman) at its best.

I look at some of the crazies in the UCP like the Griswold's look at cousin Eddie, but that doesn't mean I'm giving the keys to the NDP. Never again.

[BlackArcher101]

Amazing

[Fuzz]

I'm continually amazed at how people can not see what an utter disaster Smith is. What a disaster the UCP has been. What a pending disaster a Take Back Alberta controlled party will be. How are people so thick?

[TorqueDog]

Calgary-Elbow's UCP candidate Chris Davis came to my door today. Chatted with him for a little bit, but was quite clear that a party led by Danielle Smith is not a party that is going to be receptive to 'moderate' Conservative voices and that I'm voting Team Orange again.

Seems like a nice enough guy but I cannot and will not vote for that party.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

I'm continually amazed at how people can not see what an utter disaster Smith is. What a disaster the UCP has been. What a pending disaster a Take Back Alberta controlled party will be. How are people so thick?

You’re assuming that all of them are actually being fooled when a lot of them are in on the scam for personal gain.

[surferguy]

Originally Posted by Loyal and True

No, the average UCP supporter simply doesn't trust the NDP to govern, and for sound economic reasons.

Notley and the NDP make a fine Loyal Opposition and I hope they stay there.

The UCP at its worst (Smith or even... Theo) is still less harmful to our economy than the NDP (Notley, Ceci, Phillips, Hoffman) at its best.

I look at some of the crazies in the UCP like the Griswold's look at cousin Eddie, but that doesn't mean I'm giving the keys to the NDP. Never again.

Honest question - do you keep up with the day to day activities of this current government?

You do realize that for every economic mistake the NDP made the UCP has probably four similar or worse mistakes. Let’s try an exercise, you name an NDP money waste and we will counter.

[#-3]

Originally Posted by Loyal and True

No, the average UCP supporter simply doesn't trust the NDP to govern, and for sound economic reasons.

Notley and the NDP make a fine Loyal Opposition and I hope they stay there.

The UCP at its worst (Smith or even... Theo) is still less harmful to our economy than the NDP (Notley, Ceci, Phillips, Hoffman) at its best.

I look at some of the crazies in the UCP like the Griswold's look at cousin Eddie, but that doesn't mean I'm giving the keys to the NDP. Never again.

Given that you have over 4 years of evidence with this exact ANDP group governing, I assume you have examples you'd like to share. I look forward to the CP braintrust retorting any example you come up with with the UPC doing something either identical or 10x worse.

[Ferarri]

Originally Posted by Loyal and True

No, the average UCP supporter simply doesn't trust the NDP to govern, and for sound economic reasons.

Notley and the NDP make a fine Loyal Opposition and I hope they stay there.

The UCP at its worst (Smith or even... Theo) is still less harmful to our economy than the NDP (Notley, Ceci, Phillips, Hoffman) at its best.

I look at some of the crazies in the UCP like the Griswold's look at cousin Eddie, but that doesn't mean I'm giving the keys to the NDP. Never again.

Sound economic reasons? You do realize the UCP wasted over a billion dollars on a failed pipeline. Let that sink in. A billion dollars for absolutely NOTHING. That has to be the biggest financial waste in Alberta history cause it came with zero benefit to the people of this province. Yet somehow you don’t trust the NDP to manage the finances…

[bagofpucks]

A work colleague dropped “Rachel will turn us into communists” bomb on me today…seems logical and rational. What the hell is wrong with people.

[Izzle]

We won't get to hear loyal and true 's rebuttal. Sad!

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by iggy_oi

You’re assuming that all of them are actually being fooled when a lot of them are in on the scam for personal gain.

But most have just been indoctrinated.

[Loyal and True]

NDP policies have been loaded with permanent spending increases which cost us all more then every one of your examples combined.

Out of any number of examples, I will stick with one. How many billions are wasted annually on debt servicing costs? That money could pay for 2 ridiculously stupid one-time mistakes, plus another 2 creative, half decent policies. EVERY YEAR.

The costs of constantly catering to NDP stakeholders creates a structure of permanent recurring cost increases, deficits and INCREASING debt service costs. oh, and compounding.

I know you think the NDP are better at minimizing costs but good luck with that sales pitch.

The fiscal revenue side is a whole other conversation. I definitely don't trust NDP policies to foster an environment for economic growth. Who would want to opreate as an employer (gasp.. corporation) in a province where investment returns (gasp... profits) are begrudged as if there were no risks involved?

This Arena deal... do NDP'ers think Murray Edwards is making billions operating this hockey team?!? I don't think so, but they seem entitled to think he should fork over hundreds of millions for an event centre the city needs more than he does.

[Loyal and True]

Originally Posted by iggy_oi

You’re assuming that all of them are actually being fooled when a lot of them are in on the scam for personal gain.

Is free enterprise a scam? Is personal gain a scandal? What about risk and reward?

[Roughneck]

Originally Posted by Loyal and True

This Arena deal... do NDP'ers think Murray Edwards is making billions operating this hockey team?!? I don't think so, but they seem entitled to think he should fork over hundreds of millions for an event centre the city needs more than he does.

Originally Posted by Loyal and True

Is free enterprise a scam? Is personal gain a scandal? What about risk and reward?

Tell me more...

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by Loyal and True

NDP policies have been loaded with permanent spending increases which cost us all more then every one of your examples combined.

[Loyal and True]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

Hilarious chart! Doesn't look so bad when you go back to 1965, eh?

Also... per capita? Sure then, so how much is 330 million for infrastructure spread over 35 years... per capita...