2023 Toronto Blue Jays Season Thread

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

He has a 2.0 WAR

A WAR is worth ~8million.

So he was worth approx 16 million this year .

And was paid 14.5

His career WAR is something like 15.3.

[Sidney Crosby's Hat]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

Rays aren’t pitching any regulars tomorrow

So we’ll probably get shutout

And also with Gausman pitching he'll get his usual run support and we'll likely lose 1-0.

Then Rangers will beat the Mariners tomorrow and we'll get swept by the Rays next week haha.

[bluejays]

Originally Posted by Sidney Crosby's Hat

And also with Gausman pitching he'll get his usual run support and we'll likely lose 1-0.

Then Rangers will beat the Mariners tomorrow and we'll get swept by the Rays next week haha.

I'm waiting for a "that's the spirit" line from someone shortly. lol

[ben voyonsdonc]

I don’t think that Vlad doesn’t care. It’s that important moments seem to be too big for him. He tries too hard and grips the bat too tight. He had some horrendous at bats today when we needed him to show up and it has happened a lot this season.

He might want to start some work with a sports psychologist in the offseason.

[Jason14h]

Oh I have no doubt Vladdy cares as much if not more then anyone in the team

The weak leadership from coaching / management/ veterans has really hurt his development

[Whynotnow]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Yeah....as down a year as Vlad has had he still:

Leads the club in HR, RBI, BB, OBP for guys that start every day.

2nd in hits and total bases.

Not what anyone wanted him to be this year, but still a very good player.

He’s also third in the league in hit into double plays which of course leads the club, even beating out Kirk on that stat. I honestly can’t think of a high leverage late in the game, pressure packed moment where he has performed lately. I hate it, he’s one of my favourite players, but he’s not been nearly good enoug.

[Beninho]

Not really surprising given this team has choked in every big game the last several years. Ryu and Richards were terrible

[KelVarnsen]

Nm

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by kelvarnsen

playoffs or not. I don’t want vladdy on the team next year.

lol

[Dion]

Originally Posted by KelVarnsen

Playoffs or not. I don’t want Vladdy on the team next year.

[KelVarnsen]

Nm

[flamingred89]

Lets go Texas!!!

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by KelVarnsen

Vladdy is Sam Bennett. Lots of hype and promise but lacking the toolbox to be great. I rather get something for him and let him be another team problem.

The guy is 24 years old.

He averages 32 HR, 99 RBI, .280 avg, 68 BB, .355 OBP, 93 runs scored, .846 OPS

3 time all star, gold glove.

"No toolbox"

[Jiggy_12]

I’m not against trading Vladdy, we could get a real nice return.

But as it stands he’s still a good player and a valuable Jay. He’s in his own head when games matter most and he’s still young and can get past that.

Between him and Bo, if we have to trade one, I trade Vladdy. And that opinion for me has flip flopped since last season.

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by KelVarnsen

Vladdy is Sam Bennett. Lots of hype and promise but lacking the toolbox to be great. I rather get something for him and let him be another team problem.

Heh. I don't recall Bennett leading the team in several offensive categories.
Gaudreau a better comparable, if you must. Good numbers, some say questionable commitment, not sure that you will ever win with him, etc

[Whynotnow]

Originally Posted by Jiggy_12

I’m not against trading Vladdy, we could get a real nice return.

But as it stands he’s still a good player and a valuable Jay. He’s in his own head when games matter most and he’s still young and can get past that.

Between him and Bo, if we have to trade one, I trade Vladdy. And that opinion for me has flip flopped since last season.

Hearing last weekend his mom is quite sick I’m also willing to give him a bit of room. When my dad was bad off I can’t imagine my work performance was great and I know people in my team picked me up. So there could be a contribution there, we don’t know the details on it, and don’t need to but that’s tough.

I think the point is this season is what it is, I’m willing to give it another go with him simply because the upside is so tantalizing.

[Inferno]

I'd like to see what he can do with a different hitting coach. The issues he has seems to plague other players on the team too.

[bluejays]

Originally Posted by Whynotnow

Hearing last weekend his mom is quite sick I’m also willing to give him a bit of room. When my dad was bad off I can’t imagine my work performance was great and I know people in my team picked me up. So there could be a contribution there, we don’t know the details on it, and don’t need to but that’s tough.

I think the point is this season is what it is, I’m willing to give it another go with him simply because the upside is so tantalizing.

Had to look that up and that definitely can throw a person the wrong way for a long time. Totally forgiven if that's the case.


https://jaysjournal.com/posts/news-a...-than-baseball

[KelVarnsen]

I had no clue about that. That can #### with anyone.

I retract my previous statement.

[FLAMESRULE]

Definitely news to me, and can't believe it's not getting mentioned more. That would absolutely play on his mind.