04-10-2024, 08:20 PM
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#61
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Kipper_3434
Guy was a cap dump a few months ago, but let's give him a raise based off 8 pp goals.
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Cap dump who signed the contract in 2023
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04-10-2024, 08:24 PM
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#62
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by dino7c
Cap dump who signed the contract in 2023
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and has a higher career goals per game average than any other current Flame
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04-10-2024, 08:45 PM
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#63
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Perfect opportunity to sell high, if he continues with this level of play up to next trade deadline.
The thing with players like Kuzmenko are they are streaky. He has a lot of skill, but he isn't necessarily the right age for an extension. If he was 25 I would say sure, but he will be 30 soon. By the time we are competitive he will be around 35.
He will also actively be hurting our tank.
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04-10-2024, 09:48 PM
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#64
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
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Last edited by TrentCrimmIndependent; 04-10-2024 at 10:04 PM.
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04-11-2024, 06:33 AM
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#65
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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The coolest part is we still have at least half an nhl season before we make any decisions about kuz.
Hes fitting in great though and love the attitude and energy he brings. Hard not to want that around in any circumstances.
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04-12-2024, 10:32 PM
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#66
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Franchise Player
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May God bless and keep the Tsar.
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04-12-2024, 11:10 PM
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#67
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Dallas
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Back to the 40 goal guy
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04-12-2024, 11:12 PM
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#68
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Dallas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhett44
Perfect opportunity to sell high, if he continues with this level of play up to next trade deadline.
The thing with players like Kuzmenko are they are streaky. He has a lot of skill, but he isn't necessarily the right age for an extension. If he was 25 I would say sure, but he will be 30 soon. By the time we are competitive he will be around 35.
He will also actively be hurting our tank.
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He is 28.
3 yrs extension is fine
I like to watch goal scoring
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04-12-2024, 11:30 PM
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#69
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Flames fan in Seattle
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Yes this guy could be my new favorite player in quite some time…
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04-13-2024, 09:02 AM
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#70
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Appealing my suspension
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Just outside Enemy Lines
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In tight to the goal he does have a lot of the same skills Matthew Tkachuck does. He's not feisty or big enough to be in that area regularly at even strength. But with added time and space on the PP he can do a lot of the same things there with good hands in tight and his vision and hockey smarts. He's a guy who likely would have worked with Lindholm since he can make those passes from the goal line to the slot that Tkachuck and Gaudreau could.
Hopefully he's healthy and can keep scoring next year. If he's playing so well that you hesitate to move him, I'm happy to have that problem.
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04-13-2024, 09:20 AM
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#71
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Franchise Player
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I love Kuzmenko's attitude, energy, and skill. This is what the Flames needed and it'll be great to have him here long term for the rebuild/retool for the young prospects incoming.
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04-13-2024, 10:21 AM
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#72
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Our Jessica Fletcher
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A 3yr extension would be just right.
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04-13-2024, 04:40 PM
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#73
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Franchise Player
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Some fancy stats Following Kuzy’s 3-point night:
Powerplay:
GF/60: 16.14
xGF/60: 11.11
SF/60: 64.18
All best on the team.
Even strength:
2.11 GF/60
2.32 xGF/60
2.61 GA/60
2.68 xGA/60
25.14 SF/60
28.43 SA/60
I don’t know how many more teams are going to pay us to take a 40 goal scorer off their hands in the next three years.
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04-13-2024, 05:05 PM
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#74
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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This guy is developing quite a love hate reaction among the fans. We signed up for a cap dump and we might end up with an all time fan favorite signed to a long term deal. He has single-handedly generated enough offense with high skill and creativity to win a few games lately, which is NOT what we want to do.
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04-13-2024, 07:13 PM
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#75
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: The Pas, MB
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If he's clicking with the team I'm happy. If the team is truly as bad as some of the fans say they are they will lose anyway.
If he gets traded next season it'll probably be for the same reason the UFAs were traded this season. Not because Conroy is trying to deliberately be bad for multiple seasons.
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04-13-2024, 08:03 PM
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#76
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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I think trading Kuzmenko makes the most sense at a macro level but I certainly wouldn't object to a short-term extension if the offers are there. Banking on a guy to continue shooting 25% is not a strategy, though.
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04-13-2024, 08:12 PM
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#77
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by TheScorpion
Banking on a guy to continue shooting 25% is not a strategy, though.
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That's what the Canucks said when they gave up on him and traded him away. After that, he went right back to shooting 25%.
Daniel Wagner pointed out that Kuzmenko's high shooting percentage is partly the product of his deliberately not taking low-percentage shots. About half his goals in Vancouver came from tips and tap-ins: ‘If he doesn’t see a high chance of scoring, Kuzmenko simply doesn’t take the shot, much to the consternation of his coaches.’
If he started taking lower-percentage shots in addition to the shots he already makes, his shooting percentage would go down, but his total goal production could actually increase.
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04-13-2024, 08:42 PM
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#78
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Franchise Player
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The Flames can't afford to just give him away for a 2nd round pick as unlike Vancouver we don't need to dump cap, even if it's just for fan excitement he brings the type of skill this team needs the most, I was reminded of the last skilled player we gave away, he now coaches the PP.
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04-13-2024, 08:47 PM
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#79
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Indiana
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Asset management is everything. From this perspective, he is best off being traded. I think the Flames' best chance to truly contend will be when Huberdeau's contract ends - that's in a long time. So draft picks are key.
But giving him a 3 year extension would be fine.
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04-13-2024, 08:55 PM
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#80
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by 1qqaaz
Asset management is everything. From this perspective, he is best off being traded. I think the Flames' best chance to truly contend will be when Huberdeau's contract ends - that's in a long time.
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Depends how well they draft and develop in the meantime. The extra 1st-round picks they already have will be a big help.
Dallas didn't have to wait until Benn's contract ended. They made the Stanley Cup finals in a year when Benn made $9.5 million to score 39 points.
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