03-02-2024, 11:51 PM
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Yeah, I'm not saying I wouldn't do it if I were them but its not some steal...Just because some idiots in the media were leaking some ridiculously high numbers people think its a great deal. A few months ago the Canucks were a longshot for the playoffs, now they are cup contenders for years to come? IDK, lets see how the playoffs go and then next season.
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03-03-2024, 03:28 AM
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#62
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Location: Cowtown
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
Depends what you mean. Best player every have been a Canuck? No.
Best player ever to have been a career Canuck (or even majority)? Maybe. But there's competition.
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Yeah Petey is great but he’s no Messier.
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03-03-2024, 04:13 AM
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#63
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Originally Posted by dino7c
5th highest cap hit in the league...I don't think its a steal like some of you seem to
Is he going to get 100 points year in year out?
Seems like the going rate but I don't think he left much if anything on the table
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Cap hit in a vacuum isn’t fair to compare. You have to look at % of the cap when the deal was signed. The cap is higher now than it was when Tavares signed for $11m. Petterson in year 6 of his contract will probably be a lower % of the cap than someone like Patrick Kane in year 6 of his 8 year deal.
I think this is gonna be a great contract.
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03-03-2024, 07:20 AM
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#64
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Originally Posted by dino7c
Yeah, I'm not saying I wouldn't do it if I were them but its not some steal...Just because some idiots in the media were leaking some ridiculously high numbers people think its a great deal. A few months ago the Canucks were a longshot for the playoffs, now they are cup contenders for years to come? IDK, lets see how the playoffs go and then next season.
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Anytime you can sign a guy who is entering his 26 year old year and he has what looks like will be back to back 100 point seasons for around 12% of the cap and dropping to probably 9-10% of the cap by year 8 it is a great contract. I suspect he averages 90+ points a year for the duration of the contract.
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03-03-2024, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by dino7c
Yeah, I'm not saying I wouldn't do it if I were them but its not some steal...Just because some idiots in the media were leaking some ridiculously high numbers people think its a great deal. A few months ago the Canucks were a longshot for the playoffs, now they are cup contenders for years to come? IDK, lets see how the playoffs go and then next season.
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Based on your comments on Huberdeau not having that bad a contract once the cap goes up, this looks great.
Canucks being garbage last year has more to do with d core and coaching than forwards.
I'm not a big fan of the Canucks but I'm also not so blinded by homer glasses that I can recognize they are doing it right since Rutherford took over.
Miller and Hughes on great contracts, Petterson's is good and if Hronek comes in under Hughes number they look set up for future. Will have issues fitting on Boeser but having so many players performing well is an issue I wish the Flames had.
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03-03-2024, 10:50 AM
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#66
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Location: Van City - Main St.
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Lol at 3 posts in a row responding to Dino.
He has a shtick to uphold; save your time. This isn't about logic or cap structure for him.
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03-03-2024, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates
Lol at 3 posts in a row responding to Dino.
He has a shtick to uphold; save your time. This isn't about logic or cap structure for him.
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True, he didn't #### on it so that's as good as your going to get for a reaction to another teams signing.
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03-03-2024, 11:00 AM
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They aren't even reading I never even said it was bad I literally said it was the going rate. I was also agreeing with the last post on the previous page.
If you guys love it that's great, it hasn't even started yet though. Also I don't remember saying the Huberdeau contract was good?? Maybe when it was signed and he was coming off 115.
People thought Nylander was high but it was less money and they have near identical stats...I also question this player in the playoffs. Vancouver is a .500 team since the deadline, are they perennial cup contenders or are they last year's team?? Probably somewhere in the middle.
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03-03-2024, 11:06 AM
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As long as the NHL does what it has always done when they renegotiate the CBA and gives the teams a free buyout or two to put extra money in the players pockets as compensation for what the players lost in the CBA negotiations the Flames will be fine. The Flames can buyout Huberdeau then which coincides with when the Flames should be competitive again.
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03-03-2024, 11:14 AM
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What has VAN accomplished, with Petterson as their best player?
I mean, the contract is fine, based on points over the last 1.5 seasons, but I wouldn't call $11.6M a bargain
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03-03-2024, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root
What has VAN accomplished, with Petterson as their best player?
I mean, the contract is fine, based on points over the last 1.5 seasons, but I wouldn't call $11.6M a bargain
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Oh I don't think it's a bargain, I though it would start with a 12 though and if it was going to be 13 I would have shipped him to the canes in a heartbeat.
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03-03-2024, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root
What has VAN accomplished, with Petterson as their best player?
I mean, the contract is fine, based on points over the last 1.5 seasons, but I wouldn't call $11.6M a bargain
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I'm not even sure he is their best player, Miller looks better right now. Maybe Hughes too.
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03-03-2024, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Icantwhisper
Oh I don't think it's a bargain, I though it would start with a 12 though and if it was going to be 13 I would have shipped him to the canes in a heartbeat.
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Lol so why are you attacking me exactly? All I said is it wasn't some steal like others were saying. 5th highest cap hit in the league is plenty fair.
Media leaks 12M
Player takes .5 less
What a steal
Tale as old as time, ask the Oilers
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03-03-2024, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Icantwhisper
I'm not even sure he is their best player, Miller looks better right now. Maybe Hughes too.
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Miller is having a great year but I am not a huge fan. Right now, you'd have to say Hughes is their best player.
More reason why I don't think Petterson is worth that.
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03-03-2024, 12:17 PM
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I don't think anyone thinks the contract is a steal but recognize he likely could have got more. If he's still producing at a similar level in 4 or 5 years maybe it looks like a steal.
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03-03-2024, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by dino7c
Lol so why are you attacking me exactly? All I said is it wasn't some steal like others were saying. 5th highest cap hit in the league is plenty fair.
Media leaks 12M
Player takes .5 less
What a steal
Tale as old as time, ask the Oilers
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Point taken, woke up annoyed at a bike shop and had to argue with something
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03-03-2024, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Icantwhisper
Point taken, woke up annoyed at a bike shop and had to argue with something
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Why were you sleeping at a bike shop?
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03-03-2024, 05:04 PM
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#78
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Originally Posted by dino7c
Wat!
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If the salary cap continues to increase in the next few years and teams are willing to spend the money I could easily have envisioned Pettersson going to a market like LA or Anaheim for max dollars. He has a very unique skill set that makes him highly attractive and for a young number one center the last time one hit the market was with Tavares and he has a cap hit percentage of 13.85%... and that was with him taking a hometown discount. Is it unreasonable to think that Pettersson would get a similar value
That being said I don't think that is how a winning team is built, just what I think he could get in an open market if he walked himself to free agency.
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03-03-2024, 05:08 PM
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11.6 for a guy called skinny pete? Atleast he has Youth on his side.
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03-03-2024, 06:52 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
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Pete is no unicorn like Tkachuk and he costs 2 mil more.
It's not a "steal". Its fair, but necessary for the Canucks. That's it.
This is no Lindholm/Hanifin <5 mil cap hits which actually were steals.
Draisaitl's is much closer to steal territory, but I'd still call it just good to very good.
For a hundred point skill guy, 11.6 is... ehh.
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